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Sun Tzu · 05-18-2003, 01:36 AM

We're all passionate about what we believe and our desire for there to be a just and peaceful world. As with every thread I’ve seen posted in the forum; including the last one the very same pattern has evolved. I’m guilty of contributing to it as well. What I’m referring to is the progression of the discussion. Many things have been said, facts (?), historical accountings (the many versions that exist), and other elements that lend for good debate, with the small hope (I speak for myself) that maybe will help shed light on someone who's misinformed and/ or fallen prey to a successful and strategic disinformation campaign. The truth is the only things I learn from each of the discussions are familiar elements that only strengthen what I believed before. It always seems to be exactly the same for those I debate with.
There are no dummies or drones in the forum, IMO people like don't care what’s going on around them, unconnected in a world they're checked out of. With that said there is enough information in multiple forms out there (including going there) that whatever position they have arrived at did so because that’s how they chosen to interpret what the see, feel, hear, and experience as their reality. I’m not one to say that's right or wrong. The people who are saying its right or wrong are the ones dying from this senseless perpetual greed. Then again that exists everywhere; even within are own borders. crumbbum thanks for interesting conversation its never dull when talking about this issue, but because I find myself sinking into this every time; posting my perceptions and the reason that are so blatantly clear to me I feel almost bound to assist in making them clearer. As with each of the threads with this subject I realize your doing the same thing. Because of time (and maybe not getting anything else done) I'll respectfully bow out of this conversation for now.
I'll leave with maintaining my hope that one day (sooner the better) the two will leave in peace side by side.

05-18-2003, 01:36 AM	#44 (permalink)
Sun Tzu Conspiracy Realist Location: The Event Horizon	We're all passionate about what we believe and our desire for there to be a just and peaceful world. As with every thread I’ve seen posted in the forum; including the last one the very same pattern has evolved. I’m guilty of contributing to it as well. What I’m referring to is the progression of the discussion. Many things have been said, facts (?), historical accountings (the many versions that exist), and other elements that lend for good debate, with the small hope (I speak for myself) that maybe will help shed light on someone who's misinformed and/ or fallen prey to a successful and strategic disinformation campaign. The truth is the only things I learn from each of the discussions are familiar elements that only strengthen what I believed before. It always seems to be exactly the same for those I debate with. There are no dummies or drones in the forum, IMO people like don't care what’s going on around them, unconnected in a world they're checked out of. With that said there is enough information in multiple forms out there (including going there) that whatever position they have arrived at did so because that’s how they chosen to interpret what the see, feel, hear, and experience as their reality. I’m not one to say that's right or wrong. The people who are saying its right or wrong are the ones dying from this senseless perpetual greed. Then again that exists everywhere; even within are own borders. crumbbum thanks for interesting conversation its never dull when talking about this issue, but because I find myself sinking into this every time; posting my perceptions and the reason that are so blatantly clear to me I feel almost bound to assist in making them clearer. As with each of the threads with this subject I realize your doing the same thing. Because of time (and maybe not getting anything else done) I'll respectfully bow out of this conversation for now. I'll leave with maintaining my hope that one day (sooner the better) the two will leave in peace side by side. __________________ *To confine our attention to terrestrial matters would be to limit the human spirit.- Stephen Hawking* Last edited by Sun Tzu; 06-16-2003 at 04:02 PM..