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pan6467 · 04-16-2005, 05:56 AM

Personally, it's very rare that 1 single player in a team sport can draw 50,000 fans, only a winning team will draw fans.

Cleveland Indians in the 90's still sold out every game after Albert (don't call me Joey) Belle signed elsewhere. Sooooooo, where's the argument HE put the people in the stands? It was a WINNING TEAM that did it not HIM!!!!!!!

Cleveland Caveliers have arguably the best young talent in the NBA, whose future looks to be on par with Jordan..... yet as the Cavs lose downward go ticket sales..... sooooooo is Cleveland saying he isn't worth watching.... NO, the fans just as in any city want a winner.....

When the Cavs had Mark Price, Brad Daugherty, Larry Nance, Craig Ehlo and company, they drew close to as many fans as they do now, the difference is, they were a winning, non choking team at that time.

The Browns, filled the house with Bernie and company and they were winners, did people go to watch Bernie.... probably but if he had not had Slaughter or Drennen or Newsome to pass to or a line to defend him, he would have been playing to empty stands.

A-Rod signed that huge contract in Texas, guaranteeing that Texas would never have money to contend with. What happened Texas never contended with him there and the attendance dropped..... did he take responsibility for attendance dropping and pay back money so that Texas could afford a winner? Hell no, he wanted out and got his ass traded.

In essence it is the owners fault for the salaries that prohibit them from competing yet, it is also the athletes who are greedy and refuse to see that their high salaries may defeat the purpose of signing them .... i.e. a losing team that cannot compete.

In TO's situation, he signed the contract he should honor it plain and simple. He knew the risk of being cut and that's on him. Philly can probablytake what he wants go out and get 2-3 average maybe better than average recievers or a RB, and a couple linebackers that will help win more games and in turn draw more people than TO will.

04-16-2005, 05:56 AM	#3 (permalink)
pan6467 Lennonite Priest Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA	Personally, it's very rare that 1 single player in a team sport can draw 50,000 fans, only a winning team will draw fans. Cleveland Indians in the 90's still sold out every game after Albert (don't call me Joey) Belle signed elsewhere. Sooooooo, where's the argument HE put the people in the stands? It was a WINNING TEAM that did it not HIM!!!!!!! Cleveland Caveliers have arguably the best young talent in the NBA, whose future looks to be on par with Jordan..... yet as the Cavs lose downward go ticket sales..... sooooooo is Cleveland saying he isn't worth watching.... NO, the fans just as in any city want a winner..... When the Cavs had Mark Price, Brad Daugherty, Larry Nance, Craig Ehlo and company, they drew close to as many fans as they do now, the difference is, they were a winning, non choking team at that time. The Browns, filled the house with Bernie and company and they were winners, did people go to watch Bernie.... probably but if he had not had Slaughter or Drennen or Newsome to pass to or a line to defend him, he would have been playing to empty stands. A-Rod signed that huge contract in Texas, guaranteeing that Texas would never have money to contend with. What happened Texas never contended with him there and the attendance dropped..... did he take responsibility for attendance dropping and pay back money so that Texas could afford a winner? Hell no, he wanted out and got his ass traded. In essence it is the owners fault for the salaries that prohibit them from competing yet, it is also the athletes who are greedy and refuse to see that their high salaries may defeat the purpose of signing them .... i.e. a losing team that cannot compete. In TO's situation, he signed the contract he should honor it plain and simple. He knew the risk of being cut and that's on him. Philly can probablytake what he wants go out and get 2-3 average maybe better than average recievers or a RB, and a couple linebackers that will help win more games and in turn draw more people than TO will. __________________ I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"