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Originally Posted by MageB420666
The reason school prayer is not allowed is because it would be religious fanatacism being forced on atheists. You pray in church, temple, home, etc. You go to school to learn English, Math, Social Studies, etc.
Just because the majority wishes it does not make it right. School prayer was done away with because it created a situation that bred trouble, students that did not wish to pray would be either forced to or targeted for ridicule. It would violate others rights, besides no where in the constitution does it say that you have the right to school prayer.
I'm not saying that there aren't atheist fanatics, I'm just disagreeing with the definition that tspike presented. I have gotten into arguments/discussions with people over religion, but that doesn't make me a fanatic.
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What a crock. . . next you'll be saying that prayer in a public place shouldn't be allowed because an atheist MIGHT overhear you!! Nothing is being forced on anyone in this situation, if you don't wish to participate then don't, but that does NOT give you the right to tell me what I can and cannot do! You have your rights, and I have mine, I object when the minority inflicts their rights upon me under the guise of being politically correct! Why is it alright for you to choose not to pray in schools, but it is not alright for me to choose that I want to pray in schools?!? Nobody is forcing you, and I don't think anywhere outside of religious based schools has a prayer activity been required for decades!
Before you make it, no I will not agree that the practice of prayer is discriminatory against those that wish to be exempted, because in attempting that argument you're saying that it's more acceptable to have the converse and discriminate against the large majority that wishes to participate! As for being targeted for ridicule if that were the case, given our litigious society why weren't their civil cases brought against students for it? In regard to the constitution there is a clause that says that ALL RIGHTS NOT SPECIFICALLY GRANTED OR DENIED ARE RESERVED FOR THE STATES AND CITIZENS! Which means I have just as much right to school prayer as you have right to object to it, if you don't like it don't participate or go elsewhere. The catholics have had church run schools for centuries, if the atheists want their own views taught in school, let them do the same, because at the moment I'm tired of the double standard that you feel vindicated with forcing your prayer free schools on people but don't see that you're just the other end of the fanatical spectrum. I know it's repetitive, but how is forcing compliance with being prayer free any less discriminatory and insidious than forcing prayer participance?!
Alright, I'm done ranting, sorry it's a little off topic. My overall opinion on the thread? Anyone with enough conviction is dangerous unless tempered by a little reason, and the ones that are unable to see the compromise or possible flaws in their own logic usually either don't understand the entire concept or are so convinced that they're right that they'd stop at nothing to make sure everyone else shares their beliefs. I've met a lot more religious fanatics than I have atheist or agnostic fanatics, but I agree that being atheist don't exclude them from fanatacism.