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Old 04-05-2005, 08:05 AM   #51 (permalink)
Mojo_PeiPei
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Yeah, I'm adovcating something here, I want people to wake up and grow some stones. Kids don't need this coddling or else they'll turn into whiney little bitches. Everyone is a winner, so let's do away with honor rolls, because those that didn't make it feel left out. Let's play musical chairs with enough chairs so no ones ego is bruised. National no name calling week? Is this shit serious? Again it doesn't relate so much to this particular instance of markers and color. My issue is that everyone seems to be fostering the idea that everyone is equal, when the reality is that we are not all equal.

Here is an article, talking about how Nashville did away with honor rolls and hanging up work in hallways. They also went after pep rallies and spelling bees.

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NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) - The school honor roll, a time-honored system for rewarding A-students, has become an apparent source of embarrassment for some underachievers.

As a result, all Nashville schools have stopped posting honor rolls, and some are also considering a ban on hanging good work in the hallways - all at the advice of school lawyers.

After a few parents complained their children might be ridiculed for not making the list, Nashville school system lawyers warned that state privacy laws forbid releasing any academic information, good or bad, without permission.

Some schools have since put a stop to academic pep rallies. Others think they may have to cancel spelling bees. And now schools across the state may follow Nashville's lead.

The change has upset many parents who want their children recognized for hard work.

''This is as backward as it gets,'' said Miriam Mimms, who has a son at Meigs Magnet School and helps run the Parent Teacher Association. ''There has to be a way to come back from the rigidity.''

The problem appears unique to Tennessee, since most states follow federal student privacy guidelines, which allow the release of such things as honor rolls, U.S. Department of Education officials said.

''It's the first time I've heard of schools doing that,'' said department spokesman Jim Bradshaw.

But Nashville school lawyers based their decision last month on a state privacy law dating back to the 1970s--a law that's not always followed because no one challenged the honor roll status quo.

School officials are developing permission slips to give parents of the Nashville district's 69,000 students the option of having their children's work recognized. They hope to get clearance before the next grading cycle--in about six weeks at some schools.

Until then, school principals are left trying to figure out what they can and can't do.

Sandy Johnson, chief instructional officer for the Nashville schools, says the restrictions go ''far beyond the honor role.''

''It's for anything having to do with grades and attendance or anything normally reserved just for the student or parent,'' she said.

Getting parents to sign permission slips won't help protect students from being left out, but at least it will comply with the law, school officials said.

Christy Ballard, general counsel for the state Education Department, said she's ''getting a lot of calls'' since the Nashville decision, and will recommend that all Tennessee public schools get honor roll permission slips from parents.

In Knoxville, school district spokesman Russ Oaks said they do not think posting good information about a student violates state law. He said they put such information in the same category as sports statistics.

But some school systems already get parents to sign a release before student information is made public. Others think it might be a good idea to get rid of the honor roll altogether, as Principal Steven Baum did at Julia Green Elementary in Nashville.

''The rationale was, if there are some children that always make it and others that always don't make it, there is a very subtle message that was sent,'' he said. ''I also understand right to privacy is the legal issue for the new century.''

Baum thinks spelling bees and other publicly graded events are leftovers from the days of ranking and sorting students.

''I discourage competitive games at school,'' he said. ''They just don't fit my world view of what a school should be.''

Parents at most schools, though, have been close to outrage over the new rule.

''So far, what we've heard parents say is 'This is crazy; spend your time doing other things,' '' said Teresa Dennis, principal at Percy Priest Elementary School. ''It does seem really silly.''

A similar issue over student privacy went to the U.S. Supreme Court two years ago, when some parents objected to students grading each other's work. The court sided with tradition in that case, ruling the long-standing practice of teachers asking students to swap papers and grade them in class does not violate federal privacy law.

''It's not always clear what falls into (the privacy laws),'' says Naomi E. Gittins, an attorney with the National School Boards Association. ''Schools often take a more cautious route.''
This is pure backwards insanity. Also RB maybe you could fire back to me in laymans terms for me what you are asking, me in my simplistic underachieving burned out glory can't really make out what you are trying to tell and or ask me.
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