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Originally Posted by host
Then you bashed the messenger, Tom Hayden, and you declared that "you know that committing felonies is wrong", claiming the moral high ground for yourself. You ended with an abreviation of a cliche, "YMMV".
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That wasn't directed at Tom Hayden.
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You have a very strong opinion that does not stand up to the facts, and you
offer a link to a photo to defend your point. Hayden was divorced from Fonda for many years when he wrote to defend her motives for her actions in Hanoi last year. Isn't ironic that Nixon was impeached, resigned in disgrace, and that the succeeding president, Ford, felt so certain that Nixon would be indicted, that he quickly issued Nixon a blanket pardon, in advance of any indictment?
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Well, I guess that means Nixon wasn't the only beneficiary of a blanket pardon, then...
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Nixon's chief of staff, HR Haldeman, his chief policy advisor, John Ehrlichman,
and his Atty. General, John Mitchell, all served time in federal prision for their
illegal actions while serving in Nixon's administration.
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So apparently, they didn't hide when they were wanted for criminal activity.
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The person that you attempt to smear and
label as treasonous, damaged her reputation protesting against and exposing a corrupt president and his administration that lied to the world, committed war crimes, and recorded many of their discussions for posterity.
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Or, depending on your perspective, she used her noteriety for personal pecuniary gain...
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Jane Fonda was not indicted, or pardoned. The authorities that she challenged and exposed, were!
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I don't need to remind you that others WERE pardoned, do I?
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Over 58,000 of our young troops died in Vietnam, moosenose; in a war that two presidents knew was unwinnable, yet they continued to send our troops to their deaths, and in the process, killed more than 2 million Vietnamese.
Jane Fonda was not the problem in that era, moosenose, Nixon and Kissenger were, and they ordered GHW Bush to lie to the world to refute the truth that Fonda attempted to expose. I know that communism was bad and America was good, but do the ends always justify the means, in your world?
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WHY was the war unwinnable? Certainly it was winnable militarily. Did you ever read what Giap said about how the war was won by his side? You should, because he talks about people like you, and how people like you kept the war from coming to a sucessful conclusion for the Americans. And while you scream "NIXON, NIXON, NIXON, I notice you're not screaming "JFK! JFK! JFK!" or "LBJ! LBJ! LBJ!" Why is that?
Vietnam wasn't lost on the battlefield. It was lost on the home front. It was lost because people committed multiple felonies like refusing to register for the draft and being fugitives from justice. Yes, they were later pardoned, just like Nixon was. That doesn't make them any less of a criminal than Nixon was....