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Originally Posted by Manx
I don't know what you're talking about. Are you responding to the fact that the information presented in this thread is blocked from public discourse? It is. And you take part in that by critisizing the American Indian Movement for protesting Denver's Columbus celebrations.
Sure it is. And this discussion is about the attrocities of Christopher Columbus. If your response to a list of attrocities is to claim that it does no one any good to list his attrocities because he was somehow heroic for discovering America, my response is going to be that you're whitewashing history. And I would be entirely correct in the matter.
Maybe if the sum total information on Christopher Columbus was not massively weighted towards his greatness (do a Google search and see how difficult it is to find negative information on Columbus for all the positive information that comes up), there would be no need to protest a celebration or start a thread that only listed some of his attrocities. But that's not the world we live in.
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I think I need to dispell a few of these misconceptions and move on.
First, we seem to be discussing it.
I will repeat, for the last time, that the reason for closing the thread was it's title, which was: "Columbus was an Asshole".
This was not a thread title that was conducive to a discussion.
Second: My beef with AIM is not that they protest, but that they ACTIVELY TRY TO PREVENT the Sons of Italy from holding their own parade. People like Russell Means are free to protest. But they should not be free to prevent others from their right to hold a parade. (Ironically, Ward Churchill who recently has been in the news arguing for academic freedom of speech also has no problem preventing others from exercising their own freedom of speech when he doesn't like it.)
Third: I have acknowledged the all the "sins" presented. I have not "whitewashed" them as you have charged. I would indeed say that if anyone is "whitewashing" (or perhaps more correctly, "blackwashing"), it's those who chose to have as myopic a view of historical individuals in a black light as those who hold them in a white light.
And finally: This a
discussion board. I was once told long ago that the poster cannot dictate the direction of the discussion. It is not up to you (or me) to dictate the responses to your post. If some defend Columbus, then some defend Columbus. If others say "move on" then they say "move on". And likewise, if some agree with you, then they agree with you.
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