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Originally Posted by korovadroog
Castro is a man I admire very much for standing up to the US government, but i don't like the fact that he's wealthy.
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Why do you admire him for standing up to the US goverment? What has he ever stood up for other than things that benefit himself?
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But, we really haven't given communism a fair chance, have we? Afterall, America has been trying to crush communism wherever it springs up since the Russian revolution.
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America had really little to do with the USSR until after WWII. And it should be obvious that the only reason that the US tried to "crush communism" was because we were jealous. We saw the utopian state that was soviet Russia and didn't want anyone else to experience those joys
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So until coummunism can be used correctly, we're stuck with the immoral capitalist insitution called the United States.
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I don't understand, is it capitalism that is immoral, or the United States, or both? Are other capitalist countries moral? Or does only true morality spring from communism? We aren't stuck with immoral communist countries like China?
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Look at where capitalism has us as a society: we have a corporate lacky as a president who is willing to wage unjust war for oil,
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Where's the proof? I thought the "no blood for oil" was 2003 propaganda. Most liberals seemed to realise that there was no direct pipeline of oil from Iraq to the White House, and changed their tune. But I will admit, it was a catchy line while it lasted. I could see how it would be hard to let go of.
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Originally Posted by willravel
The problem does not lie in the government as much as it lies in those responsible for the government. Socialism could absolutely work, if it wasn't for a few very selfish people. The same can be said of Democracy. It's a shame that selfish people seem to be the most ambitious. Perhapse there is a link between ambition and selfishness....Everyone is either frustrated or blind. That's the way it's always been and I think that's the way it will always be. If you aren't disapointed at your government at all, you need to pay better attention. I don't see anything as much worse now than it was 5 or 10 years ago. Right now we're in a part of the socio-political cycle. We are coming from liberty and headed towards authoritirian. After a time of being under authoritarian rule, we will rebel and return to liberated. Then it'll happen all over again. I hope my daughter get's to see the liberated part, it's wonderful.
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What would you consider the "liberated" part? And What is the authoritarian? Is it merely dependant on what party is in charge? Because I personally notice no difference between now and 10 years ago in what is or isn't allowed. I would actually say that because of the growth of different communication mediums (one of which is the internet) there is more allowed and being challenged at this time than most others. That hardly seems to me to be authoritarian.
And on a more abstract note, assuming that this is truly a more authoritarian time, do you believe that authoritarianism has it's place in society?