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Originally Posted by scout
There is lots of places in the States with a CCW that you can't carry a gun... Likewise it seems fairly reasonable that if I should enter a bar that I should leave it in the truck due to the likelihood of trouble being started in such a place.
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Here, at least, it's perfectly legal for somebody with a permit to carry a gun onto school property provided that they are not doing it with the mens rea to commit a crime. With bars, the rule SHOULD be one of "no drinking alcohol while armed." If you're not drinking alcohol, I have no problem with being armed.
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Likewise I see no reason to give teachers a blanket "license to carry" while on the job. If they have a concealed carry permit and they do happen to carry their weapon to work so be it, but I'm sure they will be much more careful without a security blanket than with one.
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It wouldn't give teachers a blanket "license to carry". They'd have to get a permit just like anybody else.
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No really, I just find it hard to imagine how they are going to be able to secure that firearm to insure that it doesn't get stolen or worse. I've seen some people with CCW permits that apparently have no concept of securing their firearm, and I'm sure some of the teachers would get careless as well. Also, I really have no desire for my grandchildren to be taught by a teacher with a Colt Peacemaker strapped to his hip. Using your logic once a child reaches 18 and is able to get a CCW permit then he should also be legally able to pack his weapon to school.
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It's ridiculously simple. Remember CCW means CONCEALED....ie you carry it on your person where people can't see it. When I was in college, I carried to class every day, and nobody had a problem. Of course, I went around to the PD and introduced myself and showed them my creds before I carried to class...
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I would rather put high voltage fences around the school and to enter everyone has to go through metal detectors manned by armed security if that's what it takes rather than having our children learn from a teacher that's got a .45 strapped to his/her hip. Once inside the building children shouldn't have to worry about a thing but learning and growing.
Sorry if I offend you but that's just the way I see it.
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You're entitled to your opinion, and you didn't insult me, so relax. If a child is raised in an environment where they're made to feel like a criminal because of the security measures, that will have a negative psychological effect on them. I'd rather have kids educated in an environment where things were open, and criminals were kept away because they didn't know who was packing. Something like 46 states currently have either "may issue" or "shall issue" CCW licensing. And the people in those 46 states don't go around in their daily lives worrying about who MIGHT have a CCW permit, do they?