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Old 03-29-2005, 05:41 PM   #75 (permalink)
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It still is. Such things comprise well over 50% of the NRA's annual budget.

However, you have to realize that the pro-gun groups are not the first people to jump on this; they almost never are. Within 12 hours of any mass shooting, without exception, the Victim Disarmament crowd is dancing in the still-drying blood, trying to get their anti-rights agenda into the public eye. For example, The Brady Bunch and VPC used the Red Lake Shooting as an excuse to pontificate upon the need for the Assault Weapons Ban; this despite the fact that no "assault weapons" were used in the incident. The pro-rights folks are responding to the insane, gleeful reactions of The Brady Bunch and VPC, -not- the other way 'round. Anti-rights groups like Brady are notorious for using statistics and quotes which are fudged, taken out of context, or outright lies. Their figured on "X children per day killed" are one famous example; they include everyone up to age 19 as a "child" and throw in justified self-defense shootings to bolster their numbers even further. The rediculous Kellerman "43 times" study has been debunked for over a decade, yet they still cite this work of fiction. They are not above using the victims of a tragedy like this to advance their agenda, even when the survivors of those victims ask them not to ( as happened after Columbine. )

The suggestions of the NRA et al are far from "wack-a-doo," as you put it; as I pointed out earlier it has worked like a charm in Israel.
Sorry, but of the 51 headlines hit with "red lake shooting" on the site where this article comes from "NRA leader advocates guns for teachers" was the only one actually suggesting a solution to the problem of school shootings. You know why this headline exists? Because it's wack-a-doo and thereby grabs readers. The NRA may not be the only group using school shootings to further their political agendas, but they are the only one that is crass and tasteless enough to use these events to champion easier access to guns.

re: Israel...First of all what you say about attacks on Israeli schools is patently false--negated easily by the most cursory google search. Secondly are you seriously equating Palestinian terrorists with the estranged teens and pre-teens committing the shootings in our country? Should we bulldoze their parents homes?

It think there is a basic watershed of fear which decides how people feel about concealed carry laws and recommendations like those suggested in this thread. What the gun coterie doesn't understand is that the level of fear and repression that these laws would create would be much worse than a society where ostensibly everyone is unarmed. The paranoiacs running the NRA are essentially afraid and cowering at all times and therefore see no difference.

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