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I know what your application said, Seaver, because it's the same one every student in the United States fills out when they apply for student aid at a university. The FAFSA is a standard form, there is no personal form you filled out that differed from mine, except those in addition to the standard government forms.
The fact that you don't understand a link between parents' education/income level and your class position indicates more about your assumptions and resulting arguments than mine, in my opinion.

If you are referring to admissions procedures, seperate from funding, then the magic form is the Statement of Purpose. Otherwise known as your application essay or personal statement. Such an essay problematizes what raveneye claimed--that admissions could be determined blind--because you get to load it up with all the personal reasons motivating you to attend college. Those reasons could include anything you want--right down to how poor you are, or how discriminated against you feel for whatever reasons.

So, while true I don't know how you filled those sections out, that in no way detracts from my accurate statements that you could have availed yourself of them to obtain preferential treatment based on your personal economic situation.

Perhaps you didn't fill out a FAFSA. Perhaps you didn't fill out a fee waiver for your application fee. Perhaps you gave no information regarding your finances and the school made no financial offer of assistance and was unable to calculate your family's expected contribution.

Or perhaps you are the one who tried to come down off the mount and proclaim how affirmative action works and its evils wrought upon the world--until someone busted your grape. Don't get it twisted--my "holier than thou attitude" was a response to your posts and to the conservative members' SOP of posting inaccurate statements and then ignoring contrary evidence even when tit's posted several times in a thread.

What I find annoying is that you would continue to post something that isn't true as if it were.
When the facts indicate I am wrong, I rethink my position on the matter and respond accordingly.
Hopefully now you're sick enough to quite posting assumptions based on inaccurate information as fact.


You never refuted that white women are the single largest beneficiary of affirmative action?
Well, you see, that would be included in the very first point of you entering this debate and claiming that affirmative action was and is based "solely on race." A point I felt compelled to respond to. And, as anyone can scroll back and ascertain for themselves, I even asked if you were railing against a government program that discriminates in general or one that does so according to race.

You responded that you were upset about racially based discrimination programs and that you would prefer that assistance be based on class. You now say that discrimination programs that favor races and/or sex are bad. I've accurately pointed out that, in reality, class is one of the ways college funding and admissions are determined by committees.


This wraps right back to the original post of the thread: about students becoming upset and demonstrating against a process they apparently don't understand. If they did, they would have asked the students approaching how much their parents earned--just like school lunch programs, just like all government sliding scale programs, even just like their own tuition was calculated.

Goodness, did I ever have a truckload of grammatical errors in there!

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