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the dual model of conservatism that raveneye described (that there is both a social and traditional dimension to conservative thought) is useful.
rb,
how very silly of you to portray my responses as assuming to encompass all religious peoples. the context of the thread is concerned with conservative political alignments in the united states at this very moment in time. i shouldn't have to explicitly say that i'm not describing the monolithic right-wing hindi factions or speaking for lesbian-nazi scientologist's whose favorite color is purple. of course i'm speaking only about a segment of religious people, the same segment the thread is concerned with.
i think that you did illustrate the basic divide between the sides of this issue and most others... differing views on the nature of truth. i do believe that there is an absolute truth in EVERY situation. sometimes i know what that is, sometimes i don't. sometimes i'm not wise enough to see anything but grey, but i believe the truth exists nonetheless. my worldview is in direct opposition to the idea that two things can be simultaneously in opposition and be equally true. such thinking is diseased.
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~ Winston Churchill
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