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Originally Posted by timalkin
Anti-gun advocates need to start thinking rationally about teachers carrying firearms in schools. Sure, it "sounds" bad to let somebody bring a firearm into a school, but I'd much prefer a responsible adult who is trained to carry and use a firearm carrying in a school than some punk kid bringing grandaddy's old revolver to school to settle some disputes.
Emotion-based ideas rarely work when implemented in reality.
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Let's see..... using the same reactive thinking, should it have become common practice for fast food counter and kitchen workers to carry sidearms after at least one incident years ago that resulted in a lone shooter killing 21 unarmed victims ?
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<a href="http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2004/07/18/news/top_stories/16_42_237_17_04.txt">http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2004/07/18/news/top_stories/16_42_237_17_04.txt</a>
Last modified Saturday, July 17, 2004 10:40 PM PDT
<b>20 Years later, San Ysidro McDonald's massacre remembered</b>
By: JESSICA GRESKO - Associated Press
SAN DIEGO -- In the summer of 1984, a celebratory California was in the headlines. In San Francisco, the Democratic National Convention was under way. In Los Angeles, organizers were making last minute preparations for the Olympics.
Then on the afternoon of July 18, the small San Diego community of San Ysidro grabbed the spotlight for a very different reason.
On that day 20 years ago, an unemployed security guard, James Oliver Huberty, walked into a McDonald's in San Ysidro, just north of the U.S.-Mexico border, and began shooting. Armed with three guns, he killed 21 people, including five children and six teenagers, and wounded 19 before he was shot and killed by a police sniper.
At the time, his 77-minute rampage was the largest single-day, single-gunman massacre in U.S. history.
The shooting left gaps in families and shocked a nation that hadn't seen such violence on a large scale. The day changed how police respond to tragedy and awakened officers to the possibility of mass murder.
"It was new then, as flying an airplane into the World Trade Center was new in 2001," said Chuck Foster, the police sniper who ultimately ended the rampage. "All of the responders -- the police officers, the firefighters, the paramedics -- weren't foreseeing the scope of this killing spree."
It had been almost two decades since the nation had seen anything comparable -- the 1966 shooting spree from atop a tower at the University of Texas in Austin, when architecture student Charles Joseph Whitman killed 14 and wounded 31.
Huberty's rampage at San Ysidro convulsed the country. Politicians used the incident to lobby for stricter gun laws. Mental health experts and citizens wanted to know why Huberty's call to a nearby clinic wasn't returned. Others asked why his wife Etna did nothing when her husband left the house saying he was going "hunting humans."
Etna Huberty, who died last year, said such outbursts were not unusual and blamed her husband's violent streak on a troubled childhood.
The massacre also led to changes in police tactics, with officers reconsidering training practices that had them use force only as a last resort. New practices of providing mental health response teams evolved.
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Did the USPS react to multiple shooting incidents by providing postal workers with sidearms ?
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<a href="http://hematite.com/dragon/usps.html">http://hematite.com/dragon/usps.html</a>
Should U.S. Postal Employees Have Guns?
What is going on in the United States Postal Service? What drives people to such anger and rage that they will walk in and start shooting people? If this was a large corporation, such as UPS, Microsoft or K-Mart that had 41 dead employees over 12 years, you can be sure that the Government would be interrogating their management practices to find out why these incidents were occuring. Actually, that number may actually be higher, I stopped counting when I had enough data to make my point here.
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Armed teachers will require adequate training and will run the risk of deciding
when, where, and who to shoot. I doubt that many school systems will want the added liability risk that armed school personnel will bring. I believe that arming teachers in school with firearms is an ill conceived over reaction.
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Myth 3: “I carry a gun every day, so I have nothing to fear from knives”
Fact: Under 21 feet a knife will win every time against an untrained shooter. Many people refuse to believe this until they see an actual demonstration. Time after time, Many instructors in the law enforcement community demonstrate the “Tueller” drill and watch as the faces of our officers show concern and fear because their myth of “a gun as a superior weapon” was demolished by this simple demonstration where a knife wielding attacker covers the 21 feet and cut the officers throat with a training blade while they fumble with their weapon. Knives are actually one of the biggest threats to officers. Knives are a dangerous weapon that can be employed at point of contact, creating massive permanent wound cavities, causing mechanical and biological trauma with excessive blood loss leading to shock and death. 10% of all officers who are shot in the line of duty die whereas 30% of all officers attacked with a bladed weapon die[3]. These facts become truly terrifying when we also consider that the majority of all self-defense shootings occur under 10 feet, which is well within the kill zone range of bladed weapons. Dealing with bladed weapons is actually an extremely important training aspect for Law Enforcement Instructors and we must constantly be training ourselves and our officers on the latest techniques and procedures so we can defeat the knife-wielding suspect while on duty, especially since most knife attacks against officers occur either during the interview process within the personal space or during an attempt at arrest.
The essence of self-defense is the ability to defend oneself against an attacker using any and all necessary violence of action to end the threat against ones life. Any weapon is just a tool that we use in defending ourselves. Whether one uses their own body, a knife or gun to defend them-selves, the principle remains the same that to survive an attack on your life, one must realistically train and be honest with oneself about their self-defense skills.
[3] Laur, Darren: Pat, Wrap and Attack Edged Weapon Tactics and Counter Tactics, Integrated Street Combatives, Victoria BC Canada, January 2004.
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