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Old 03-25-2005, 01:52 AM   #99 (permalink)
John Henry
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Originally Posted by TheShadow
I came into this thread hoping for an open discussion on the matter. However, it appears that it's just somebody [CSfilm] stating his opinions on a matter, not allowing for any sort of debate where he is willing to give value to a reasoned statement from the meateating side. So, with this said, I'm going to say what I was planning on earlier, but I won't expect any sort of interesting dialogue to evolve from it.

First of all, CSFilm, you make hypocritical statements - you essentially say 'animal feel pain, because I know they do', then turn around saying 'plants don't feel pain, I know they don't'. You cannot assume either the former or the later! Sure the animals may react to being hit, but they may not consciously understand that they are in pain.

Also, what's to say that killing animals is wrong? It's simply a construct of reality that you've created for yourself! You have no ability to judge, in the objective manner, what is right and what's wrong. You act as if you are the supreme authority [looking at your title under your name really proves this notion], and that you are right, even when proven wrong! Don't you place any value in the betterment of humans? Curing cancer and other diseases at the cost of some monkeys and white rats is a small price to pay, don't you think? If not, we might as well just stop eating!
Perhaps next time you decide to respond with such vitriol to a thread, you should consider reading at least the initial post first, rather than just the thread title. If you find you can cope with that, then maybe you should have a go at reading the whole thread. That way, you would see that what CSFlim has actually done here is tried to engage in objective philosophical debate (an activity which is apparently becoming increasingly alien to this forum). Had you managed to read anything more than one sentence before responding, you would have seen that CSflim actually disagrees with the sentiment expressed in the thread title and is merely trying to establish what distinguishes racism from "speciesism".
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