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Old 03-24-2005, 10:47 AM   #351 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by NCB
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he should have relinquished Terri's rights to her flesh and blood. Afterall, he has given himself to another and that voids the relationship he had with Terri.
No, it does not. There exists no 1:1 correlation between those two events that is outside your head.


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You are correct, this is not like a death penalty appeal. The condemed prsioner has far more rights and appeals.
1. Usually not more than 17. that's big number in the legal system.

2. This may be a useful analogy in some context, but it is not a direct relation. The two situations are not the same. A condemned prisoner in a PVS would have much the same level of "rights" that this Schivo has. Specifically which rights are you claiming she is being denied?

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You can make the same argument to those who think he's a loyal hubby doing what is best for his wife.
Yes, the problem being that the system of arbitration that we have adopted in this society has fallen on the side of the guardian. If you don't like that, start filing an appeal to courts to change the defination of the rights entailed in the marriage contract. Maybe you can slip something in there allowing gay people to get married while you're at it.


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You're correct, and the liberal left seem to be running counter to their arguments about the sanctity of marriage. It's as if everything is upside down
Is this the on-line equivalent of "I know you are, but what am I" or am I missing some deeper point here, because honestly - 1. I have no idea what you're talking about, 2. You're going to have a very difficult time explaining your points to me / debating me if you make the ridiculous assumption that I identify myself in any way, shape, or form with the "liberal left." 3. I am now out of this. I did not intend to debate you in any serious fashion. I asked a simple question:

why do you care who this guy is shagging?

You answered me with something reflecting your personal values within the context of marriage, but which reflect no socially accepted norm / law that I am aware of. Do your committments to your old friends vanish because you make new friends? If you get re-married and have new kids, do you no longer have responsibility for your kids from your first marriage? If you make a promise to one girlfriend/lover/spouse, and get re-married - do you really believe that your old committments vanish? If so, then you are bordering on philosophical relativism, and I would like to be first to welcome you to the "liberal left".
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