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Originally Posted by NCB
If you're at all vaguely familar with taxes and deductions, you will realize that your family of four making 28,000 does not pay taxes in the end. In fact, April 15th for these people is more like December 25th because of what they get back. It's govt hand out day, not tax day for them.
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Unless you can cite a sample tax return your 'facts' are meaningless. I understand how deductions and exceptions work but as far as I'm aware you don't get back more than everything you put in over the course of the year (meaning if a person's total tax ends up at $0 and they had $1,000 taken out over the course of the year they aren't getting a check for $2,000. But that's beside the point...
You are focusing on details and missing the big picture because you cannot support an arguement that people in the bottom 50% have the means available to pay the increase in taxes necessary for a flat tax rate. Neither do most of the people in outside of the top 10% for that matter.
Keep in mind that the bottom 50% is a broad catagory. It ranges from teachers (some with Masters Degrees) all the way down to the person who works 1 day a week to get out of the house. The facts do indeed show that the bottom 50% DO pay taxes. They just don't pay them at a rate that you deem 'fair'
The fact is that you are suggesting that 90% of the country should pay more so that the top 5% can lessen their tax burden and so far you have refused to say why that is justified outside of 'it's not fair'.