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Originally Posted by Lebell
This REALLY isn't a thread jack, but stories like this are why I conceal carry.
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Ah, but I don't see a gun helping in this situation, or in a lot of others. A knife, if you know how to use it, might be pretty effective and not so blatently lethal (which is important, because you're not legally allowed to respond with excessive force). But even then, fists and some pepper spray would have probably resolved this situation in short order. That still being dependent on the other people, which, due to the bystander and shock effects[1], may be totally useless. It's possible that some quick thinking guys could realize what's going on and respond in time, and in such a case, the aforementioned fists and pepper spray would be the optimal strategy except where you are clearly outclassed (150lb guy hand-to-hand with a 250lb guy) or (fists vs knife), in which case a similar weapon would be helpful to stop the fight (as in, they wouldn't attack without a clear advantage).
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Originally Posted by clavus
You know, its really easy to say, "I woulda done something," but it is another matter entirely when you are right there. Sometimes, crazy stuff happens and people aren't prepared to deal with it. THe whole thing might last 25 seconds, but they spend 30 seconds saying, "Holy shit, I better do something." And every time the guy throws a punch, they think, "Well, its over now."
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