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Originally Posted by alansmithee
And as for gay bashings, i'm not sure how many there are. But how many nerd bashings, fatty bashings, poor bashings, sex offender bashings, christian bashings, muslim bashings, that-guy-has-better-shoes-than-me bashings, gang bashings, or any other segment of society bashings are there each year? If you want to get rid of "X" bashing, that's one thing. But you can't single out one of those forms of behavior and start trying to elevate its status above the others.
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So, instead of focusing on one form of bashing and trying to eliminate it, we should do nothing because no one form of bashing is worse than any others? That makes no sense. Should we stop trying to "Save the Whales," because cheetahs are endangered too?
This topic was about gay people, I assume that's why gay bashing was brought up. It didn't sound like he was saying it was worse than any other bashing, just that it was a symptom the bias' of society.
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Originally Posted by alansmithee
Homosexuals are a minority group, if you define a minority group as a group that is not in the majority. This would also make athletes, ivy league school students, athiests, vegetarians, farmers, and any other group defined by their actions into minorities. It is odious and disturbing to me that people compare the race struggles to the supposed gay rights issues. Where are gays being persecuted? What rights don't they have that everyone else has? Not everyone loves the idea of homosexual sex. And now people are trying to equate that to the Jim Crow era south? This comparison is one of the most asinine things I have seen. What next? Comparing people who don't like homosexuality to Nazi's? Yeah, just the other day I was leading a group of gays to a gas chamber
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That is, in fact, how i define minority, however I would like to add that it is a socially defined group that is not in the majority. Farmers are not socially defined, and so aren't minorities.
Gay people can not get married, they can not visit their significant others in the hospital (because they're not officially family), they are less likely to be allowed to adopt a child than a heterosexual couple, they do not inherit their SOs estate unless there's a specific statement in the will, they can't make decisions about medical care of thier SO in case of an emergency. I'm sure there are more...These are based merely on their choice of sexual partner, and not on any reasonable criteria, this is why it's comparable to the Jim Crow era.
And, the Nazi's
were leading gay people to the gas chamber, and I find it VERY offensive that you would joke about that.