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Old 03-17-2005, 10:31 AM   #139 (permalink)
asaris
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Originally Posted by lindseylatch
AND the Bible has been translated and re-written by scribes so many times, there were many oportunities for mistakes are prejudices to get in. Believing that the Bible today is exactly the same as the Bible written 1200 years ago is just ignorant. And which edition are you taking literally? There are tons of editions, so having more or less than others, and some translate sections in a COMPLETELY different way.
But that ignores several things. First of all, the scribes believed they were transcribing the word of God, so they were probably pretty careful. Second, their culture was much more of an oral culture than ours is (especially when we start talking about the OT). Third, and perhaps most importantly, when we've discovered manuscripts earlier than what we've had previously, there were almost always only minor differences (the sort where one person says hills and the other mountains).

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As for the story, that was like third-hand, and i was using it to make a point that perhaps God has a different sense of time than humans. Doesn't mean he can't think in human terms, like the 144 years, just that perhaps that's not what they meant with the 6 days thing.
Yeah, I don't remember that story being in the Bible either. There is a verse which says "A day in your courts is as a thousand elsewhere", but that's pretty clearly metaphorical (it's in Psalms). There's another in the NT that says "A thousand years to the Lord is as a single day", but when taken in context, it's clear that it just means to emphasize God's patience.

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And if you take the Bible so literally, do you wear clothing made from more than one fabric, and eat shellfish, and do you stone adulterers? Did you know the Bible says it's okay to sell your daughter into slavery?
Purity laws were explictly revoked in the NT. Wrt slavery, that's a difficult issue. Most people I know would say that God was going easy on a people whose moral sensibilities weren't the same as ours; Christ says explicitly that this was the case with OT divorce law.

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If the Bible isn't taken as a general guide, then it's being used just to justify whatever behaviors one feels like performing, and is being ignored for every other part.
Funny, I'd say the same thing about people who say that the Bible should just be taken as a general guide, without having any principled way of distinguishing between passages we should follow and those we should ignore.
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