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Originally Posted by hilbert25
Actually it should not be any different when your talking about morality. Why is it illegal? Is it illegal for moral reasons? Why is it illegal to kill someone who we happens to live in the same country as us, but it's not to do so to someone who's following a leader that we do not approve of? That's a whole different argument altogether, and please let's not discuss war, but only use as an example of how arbitrary legality is.
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ok, war is a whole nother topic! but to follow your example, do you think i wouldn't be put in jail for killing a citizen of iraq in the united states? i'm quite sure i would.
was the ban on partial birth abortions lifted? if so, i missed that in the news. some people were opposed to it, some people weren't. do i find the methods of partial-birth abortions abhorrent? no, i don't. i can see how some people would find it disturbing. for me however, i only care about what is best (safe and effective) for the woman. if she chooses one method of abortion over another for whatever reason, fine with me. the objective is to terminate the pregnancy and as long as that is accomplished in a safe and effective manner for the woman, it doesn't matter to me what method is used to accomplish that goal.
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Morals should have nothing to do with legality. Not to compare the two, but I used slavery as an example that was legal and immoral in certain people's eyes earlier. Where do you draw the line?
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i think the line is drawn when the majority of the population in question agree on a particular set of morals. abortion is a heated topic because both sides feel they are right and both want to claim they have the support of the majority.
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I see it as a cop out when the morally wrong thing negatively impacts the life of a human being. Disregard first trimester abortions, that's a grey area. Disregard non-viable in the scientific sense of not being able to possibly live outside the mother's body (we have rather good incubators right now, so this is a smaller grouping that it once was). This is talking about directly impacting the life of a potential human being (I only use potential here to avoid an useless argument about where life starts) very negatively.
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it is morally wrong to you--but not to everyone. the other poster was simply acknowledging that they respect the right of others to have different values and beliefs.
i don't agree with the kkk or christians, but i respect their rights to have their own beliefs that differ from my own. i also respect the right of those who believe abortion is morally wrong to not have one.
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If you do not believe abortion is negatively affecting someone's life, then why do you see it as immoral? That is where I am confused.
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if you are mean "you" as in me personally, i don't see abortion as immoral. i've very pro-choice. if you are using "you" in the generic sense and refer to the poster who respects the rights of others to have beliefs that differ from their own--it isn't a matter of whether you (generic) view abortion as moral or not, but that you understand and respect the right of others to hold a different belief.
abortion may not be a choice i would ever make--but i fully support the right of women who may want that option to have it.