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Old 05-16-2003, 07:34 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I personally don't see what americans see in Bush. The man just does not inspire me.
Well shit, that's reason enough to get rid of him.

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To me, since he took over, it feels like the world has descended into a dark ages.
There's a difference between causing the world to "descend into a dark ages", and shining a light on the horrible things and people that no one wants to talk about. I'm sure Canada would be just fine and dandy twiddling their thumbs in suburban Toronto while Hussein fills another mass grave and Bin Laden drops a few more airliners into our skyscrapers. To blame Bush for this is somewhere between ignorant and ridiculous.

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I respected Clinton as a statesman. He was intelligent, and the US seemed to really shine under his watch. Sure there were some screw ups, but the man was liked abroad. Everyone I know, and I mean everyone up here in the great white north liked him and thought the world was a better place.
Clinton was a scum-bag. There is really no way around that. The only success economically that he benefitted from was the result of Reaganomics, not of his own policy. As for him winning popularity contests, that means very little since he had virtually no impact during his eight years other than soiling his title, stealing furniture, and filling up the front pages of tabloids.

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Conversely, EVERYONE I know, excpet one, feels that the world under Bush is a very dark place. It's hard to put a finger on other than it feels like stagnation.
Again, Bush isn't making it a dark place, he's just lifting up the rock to bring attention to the foul things lurking beneath it. Don't blame Bush for waking you up from your silly utopian dream.

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If you guys want to elect him, fine, but I really don't think he's a good leader. I guess i have to ask - just what has the man done??
His handling of the worst terrorist attack on our soil in the history of the country, was commendable. He was honest to the American public about the difficulties of the war in Iraq. And most importantly, he didn't back down to the broken UN and helped make very clear who our real allies were. In the end you don't just elect the President -- you elect his advisors and staff. Bush is a strong figure alone and Powell, Rumsfeld, and Cheney sweeten the deal.
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