Hektore

I know I'm new here, but it seems to me if you're sick of hearing about the abortion debate, you're hanging out in the wrong thread. Nobody(that I'm aware of) is forcing you to be here. Also, while I'm at it, yes this debate has been going on for a long time. The fact that it has been going on for a long time makes it no less significant.

That being said, how I feel as a 20 year old college male born to a 17 year old mother who, because of her pregnacy, got kicked out of her house and led a much worse, worse life than she could have had without me:

Abortion is just plain wrong(surprise surprise).

If you aren't socially or emotionally ready, or just plain to want to have to deal with a pregnany, you shouldn't be having sex. I know sex is fun but by the same token the whole point isn't just for it to be fun.

Women should have have a choice about what to do with their bodies? I agree 100%, but she did have a choice: before she jumped in the sack. See my above sentiment.

Here's another thing you have to remember; it isn't just their own bodies that the descision is affecting. There's a person in there that her descision will affect. You want to claim that it isn't a person in there how? If she doesn't have an abortion, barring the intevention of nature(which is very different from you in that it doesn't have the ability to differentiate right and wrong) what is in her belly is going to be a person, just as you and I are. I count that as a person. I do not consider this belief absurd, Ever have a garden? Think about it.

I see the argument about a 12 year old getting into a bar more of an argument against a drinking age than pro-abortion.

This may come off as a personal attack, please understand that is not my intention. How many times have you died that you can say this with such certainty? Nobody knows what happens when you die, because nobody has directly observed it and come back to tell about it. At least nobody I will consider a reasonable source. By the same token I'm unaware of anyone who has memories of the womb, or memories of being aborted that they can say with certainty it is or is not a painful experience.

My personal opinion aside: Making abortion illegal now could be one of the worst ideas I've ever heard. That can of worms has been opened and taking it back now would be disastrous for women. If a woman really wants an abortion shes going to find a way to get one, and that being the case, I want her to have the ability to use the best resources we have to assure its as safe as it cant be.

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