View Single Post
Old 03-15-2005, 07:42 AM   #34 (permalink)
asaris
Mad Philosopher
 
asaris's Avatar
 
Location: Washington, DC
Foucault actually has some trouble describing resistance to power, but I don't think it's a serious difficulty. But that's not really what I wanted to talk about.

I have mixed feelings about nationalism, myself. Certainly there are few things more odious than a rabid nationalism, mainly for the reasons zen_tom pointed out. But I think it's right and good to feel some sort of proper pride in your nation, just like it's right and good to feel some sort of proper pride in your family, and I think this analogy is a very good one -- I'm reminded here of the Winston Churchill quote "Saying 'my country right or wrong' is like saying 'my mother drunk or sober'." That is to say, we can recognize flaws in our country, but whether it's right or wrong, it's still our country. We our her this because she reared us.

I think there's something to what Phage is saying, though I wouldn't put it the same way. There is something wrong with someone who does not believe anything strongly enough to be passionate about it, who does not have any beliefs she considers worth dying for. It seems to me to be something of a shadowy existence, since there are beliefs worth living for, and if a belief is worth living for, it is worth dying for. But, and here's the ugly side of belief, it is a small step from a belief being worth dying for to a belief being worth killing for, and this is a bad step to make.

But I by no means think that this entails war is wrong. There may be no beliefs worth killing for, but that does not mean there are not people worth killing for. War waged in defense of one's neighbors, in defense of one's country, is right and good. I'm not going to get into just war theory here, but it seems to me to be clear that there are cases in which war is justified.
__________________
"Die Deutschen meinen, daß die Kraft sich in Härte und Grausamkeit offenbaren müsse, sie unterwerfen sich dann gerne und mit Bewunderung:[...]. Daß es Kraft giebt in der Milde und Stille, das glauben sie nicht leicht."

"The Germans believe that power must reveal itself in hardness and cruelty and then submit themselves gladly and with admiration[...]. They do not believe readily that there is power in meekness and calm."

-- Friedrich Nietzsche
asaris is offline  
 

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360