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Old 03-14-2005, 02:50 AM   #29 (permalink)
pan6467
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Originally Posted by Mojo_PeiPei
As a neo-con I believe the motivating factor for war was oil, just viewed in the proper context.

That having been said, I don't think you can de-link oil, it's the life blood of every major country and especially it's military, namely western Europe and China/Russia/Japan. America never got it's oil from the Middle East (only 20% +/-). China is projected to account for 70% of the new demand for oil in the next 10-20 odd years, as we all know America is trying to counter the maturation of China into a super power. At the same time Western European countries and Russia all got their oil from Iraq, I think the idea held by Rummy and Wolfowitz was if we have a presence in Iraq (and the larger Mideast region), if we can stabilize it, they won't have to. In a sense they are right on the money because current trends and Europe seem to show a decrease in the countries respective militaries. If we are protecting their interests they won't have to, and they will be less of a challenge to our imperial might.

Let me start by saying I highlighted the area of utmost importance to me.....

We are trying to counter China's growth???????? Goddamn we're fucking selling them our country dirt ass cheap (the trade deficits and the fact they are buying a lot of our personal credit debts prove that fact).

Hey Zeus Freaking Christine....... we're not trying to counter shit from China we're giving it to them freely, and the flipping thing is the GOP wants to say the Dems are lefties yet the GOP refuses to raise tariffs, refuses to force China to recognize human rights or face trade embargoes..... Hell, no, the freaking GOP claims "capitalism" and sits back with a grin as we ship our jobs and money over there.....

And we won't even discuss how we allow them to infringe on copyrights and patnets and sell their pirated materials over here destroying our businesses..... I point to Gorman Rupp Pumps as a prime example of China destroying a once strong and proud company.....

Wake the F up....... trying to counter China's growth.....
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