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Old 03-13-2005, 10:10 PM   #36 (permalink)
pan6467
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Originally Posted by sob
Well, it's not exactly "sending money," but by granting NTR (formerly called most-favored nation) status to China, imports from China have a maximum tariff of 2% while China maintains a 30% to 40% tariff on US goods.

At least, that information was correct in the 90s. I'm sure someone will let me know if it's different now.
That's exactly what I meant. Aid can be given in many ways.... lower tariffs, such as we give China AND Taiwan is one of them. While they continue to tariff the hell out of our products. Plus, they sacrifice workers rights, financials and safety (not to mention subsidize their industries) so that they can sell their products for less. Taiwan is not as bad as China in doing this but they still do it, as does Japan.

We are in an economic trade war and we are losing because we refuse to tariff imports and we refuse to pass on our standards of operating to others. In trade wars it makes no sense to have a deficit to countries that oppose you politically and in every aspect. I am a firm believer that a company producing something overseas should pay the same wages and have the same workers rights as we do.... otherwise, as we are seeing, we cannot compete because other countries will do whatever it takes to take us down.

I find it pathetic that we allow this to the point where our infrastructure, education and standards of living (without massive debt) have fallen so far.

I firmly believe that if we trade with a country, their standards on workers rights and pay must be equal to ours.



As for Isreal, they are a thorn in our side. If they can truly show that they will give Palastinians rights, protect their borders and not in any way show agression to their neighbors, then I would agree to aid them. Also, Isreal is a faux ally, if we were to stop sending aid (because we cannot afford to anymore) they would be every bit as hostile toward us as any other country in the Middle East.

But they do neither. I am thoroughly a believer in what Bernstein wrote in "An American Jew in Racist Marxist Isreal." (I have yet to meet anyone that can argue Bernstein..... link so that you can see for yourself: http://www.worldnewsstand.net/history/Zionist.htm).

When Isreal can show that they support human rights and show true freedom TO ALL in their country, then they can have aid. I am not anti-semitic in any way, but it seems if you argue against Isreal you are labelled as such.


I hope this clears up any confusion on my previous post.

PS Daswig: I agree with the JFK quote also, but whether it is aid or buying their product, shipping jobs overseas and not tariffing the way they do us... it is still aiding those countries that would want us to fall. We cannot continue to have trade deficits with these countries.
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