View Single Post
Old 03-10-2005, 10:19 AM   #8 (permalink)
roachboy
 
roachboy's Avatar
 
Super Moderator
Location: essex ma
i am not sure what jazz is at this point.
i teach jazz history courses, i am involved with the music, but i do not know what it means really.

i think the wynton marsalis tendency is stultifying--if it operated on a more level playing field with other, more forward-looking types of music, it might be fine--but it doesnt--having control over the lincoln center programming is a powerful position to occupy within a fragmented field. that and most of his recorded output simply sucks.and the idea that such a player is in a position to functionally exclude from the category jazz those who work in more "experimental" areas seems to run directly counter to everything interesting and vibrant about jazz as a music. he wants to turn it into a museum piece. he wants to gut the music in the name of preserving it.


when i think of jazz these days, i think mostly about a previous generation that includes musicians who have never stopped pushing, never stopped moving--ornette coleman, cecil taylor, anthony braxton, leo smith-- among those who have died more or less recently--steve lacy, john carter, the art ensemble of chicago, sun ra--the list could go on and on.
each outlined and worked through a range of possibile relations to tradition by bringing these relations to bear on improvisation. the key is the priority acccorded these elements--tradition/improvisation. if the former has absolute priority, i think the music suffocating and suffocated. but that is my own, particular view of the matter.

i do not understand the utlity of standards.
i really do not enjoy "jam sessions" in whcih what happens is the repetition of older tunes.
it's not that i am hostile to the tunes---i like listening to them, sometimes actually enjoy when others cover them--but for the most part, i find it tedious--for example there is nothing more boring than listening to some berklee-type player strip all the rhythmic and motivic complexity out of a monk tune--why would you bother?--monk is better at being monk than you are, so what is the point of providing an audience with a demonstration of how not monk you are?.

but i have no interest in playing them as such--if i can find something i might like to do using an older piece as a jump-off point, then that is different. i do not see why anyone needs to treat tradition as something to be venerated--why it is not simply a vast pool of resources that one can pick up, visit or revisit or discard as one chooses.

there is alot more that could be said about this.
but i gotta go.
__________________
a gramophone its corrugated trumpet silver handle
spinning dog. such faithfulness it hear

it make you sick.

-kamau brathwaite
roachboy is offline  
 

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360