roachboy

another straight historical point: there was a split in the international in the run-up to world war 1 between the revolutionary and reformist wings--that is between those who understood revolution as possible in the shorter run and those who understood it as a longer-term possibility--the latter became social democrats.

over the 20th century, these two positions grew further and further apart--this is all obvious if you actually look into the history of marxism and/or the workers movement.

the distinction had to do with whether it made sense to work within the existing order to make changes that benefited the primary victims of capitalist modes of activity--which were working people and the poor--but the focus was on those who worked for wages, who, in marx's terms sold their labor power.

among the results of social-democratic movements and the responses to them were institutions like collective bargaining, which was an important basis many many developments like the extension of consumer credit to working class people--which in turn forms the basis for the type of prosperity you saw in the period from world war 2 through the early 1970s. which in turn constitues a fundamental base for the type of society that you, ncb, seem to feel works along an entirely different basis.

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