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Originally Posted by NCB
Marx and Lenin couldn't have said it better.
So do you subscribe to their versions of social justice and tolerance?
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This just backs up what Manx was saying:
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It's interesting how two terms, "social justice" (of which the inverse would seemingly be "social injustice") and "tolerance" (of which the inverse is "intolerance") can be masked by two other terms (communism and liberalism) in order to present them in a negative light.
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Are you advocating the negative? Can you seriously state that you would support Social Injustice and Intolerance? I don't think so.
That said, pulling Marx and Lenin into this is besides the point. Would it make you feel better if we all started pulling Hitler and Mussolini into this? It lessens the discussion to pointlessness...
No one here has suggested a Dictaorship of the Proletariat or any such nonsense. I would think those on the left of this discussion would argue that the reforms they seek can all be found within the Captialist Democracy we live in.
When it really comes down to it the two etremes here are not all that far off. It is a matter of degrees. One sees raising the quality of life for all as a good thing... The other side would say quality of life is *only* the inidividual's responsibility and let the chips fall where they may.
There are positives and negatives to both position and the answer is to be found somewhere in the middle.
I've said it before... I think a little socialism is a good thing for all. There is a happy medium between the respective nightmares of Lassiez-Fair Free Market system and a Communist Dictatorship.