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Gilda · 03-10-2005, 09:07 AM

First, please do not take this as a criticism of your ideas, and understand that this is meant constructively, but I found that difficult to read. Having that much content, that many ideas all jammed together in on large paragraph made it difficult to track from one line to the next and to follow the flow of ideas. In addition, not having capitals at the beginning of each sentence in such a long paragraph makes physically scanning it difficult for me.

It also made it more difficult to track the ideas than it would have been had you separated them into smaller paragraphs. As I go back to reread so that I can respond, I find it very difficult to find the particular idea I wanted to review before posting my ideas on it. Others may not have the difficulty I did, but I suspect many will. Paragraphs would greatly enhance the readability of this post.

Now for the ideas found in your post. I agree that, in a general sense, pain and pleasure are relative things. The person who has been lonely may both deal with being alone and appreciate true friendship better than the gregarious person. The person from a poor family will appreciate a job paying $50,000 a year better than the child of a millionaire. I know I can appreciate the love I have for and get from my SO better because of the failed relationships I had before I met her. Yes, a great deal of human life is relative, and having expereinced pain does enhance one's experience of pleasure as it relates to that particular kind of pain.

However, I do think that there are absolutes, times and situations in which pains serves no useful purpose. There is nothing in my life that is better as a result of having lost my sister, and I think many who have posted in the saddest day thread would have something similar to say about a part of their lives. My life is forever diminished by her loss, in such a profound way that the best I can ever hope for is that someday I'll gain more pleasure from the pleasent memories than I have pain from the loss.

I also disagree that love is the emotional component of lust. These are separate things. It's wonderful when they occur together; sex with a person you love is one of the great pleasures in life, and satisfying in a way that casual sex isn't. Yet love can exist in the absesne of lust, and lust in the absense of love. To conflate the two is a mistake. They are wonderful together, but each can be worthwhile on it's own.

There was more I wanted to respond to, but I can't seem to find it right now. I'll review and post more later.

03-10-2005, 09:07 AM	#2 (permalink)
Gilda 32 flavors and then some Location: Out on a wire.	First, please do not take this as a criticism of your ideas, and understand that this is meant constructively, but I found that difficult to read. Having that much content, that many ideas all jammed together in on large paragraph made it difficult to track from one line to the next and to follow the flow of ideas. In addition, not having capitals at the beginning of each sentence in such a long paragraph makes physically scanning it difficult for me. It also made it more difficult to track the ideas than it would have been had you separated them into smaller paragraphs. As I go back to reread so that I can respond, I find it very difficult to find the particular idea I wanted to review before posting my ideas on it. Others may not have the difficulty I did, but I suspect many will. Paragraphs would greatly enhance the readability of this post. Now for the ideas found in your post. I agree that, in a general sense, pain and pleasure are relative things. The person who has been lonely may both deal with being alone and appreciate true friendship better than the gregarious person. The person from a poor family will appreciate a job paying $50,000 a year better than the child of a millionaire. I know I can appreciate the love I have for and get from my SO better because of the failed relationships I had before I met her. Yes, a great deal of human life is relative, and having expereinced pain does enhance one's experience of pleasure as it relates to that particular kind of pain. However, I do think that there are absolutes, times and situations in which pains serves no useful purpose. There is nothing in my life that is better as a result of having lost my sister, and I think many who have posted in the saddest day thread would have something similar to say about a part of their lives. My life is forever diminished by her loss, in such a profound way that the best I can ever hope for is that someday I'll gain more pleasure from the pleasent memories than I have pain from the loss. I also disagree that love is the emotional component of lust. These are separate things. It's wonderful when they occur together; sex with a person you love is one of the great pleasures in life, and satisfying in a way that casual sex isn't. Yet love can exist in the absesne of lust, and lust in the absense of love. To conflate the two is a mistake. They are wonderful together, but each can be worthwhile on it's own. There was more I wanted to respond to, but I can't seem to find it right now. I'll review and post more later. Last edited by Gilda; 03-10-2005 at 09:10 AM.. Reason: Spelling and grammar.