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Originally Posted by retsuki03
Ok... I am not ignoring the facts.
In 1982 - 26,173 Alcohol related fatalities
In 2003 - 17,013 Alcohol related fatalities
Wow. 35% reduction in over 20 years. Like I said before, I don't think they are effective. Just an opinion.
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And how many car-miles in 1982 vs 2003? The rates have dropped more than 35% in the USA (about 50%, IIRC), and by 60%+ in Canada.
Just a fact.
There could be other effects: population aging, etc. And I'd admit the social effects that make drunk driving non-normative matter more than the laws, but the non-normativeness came from the increased enforcement of the laws.
But, 50% is pretty big.
As for smoking, there is lots of evidence that it kills people around them. Maybe not enough for smokers and tobacco manufacturers to believe it.