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Originally Posted by Manx
What I mean is that your proof changed - we are discussing factors involved in acquiring large wages - and as you've described the study, it demonstrates that IQ is a strong factor in acquiring more wages, but not large wages.
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IQ is a strong factor in acquiring wages across the board from low to high. Again, my proof didn't change, it was just an additional source of evidence.
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Originally Posted by Manx
In other words, the evidence you brought does not relate to the discussion.
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Of course it relates to the discussion. We were arguing about the influence IQ has on SES. It was an additional source of evidence. I was never talking about just "large" wages. I was talking about wages across the spectrum. Actually, I didn't think that either of us were talking about large wages.
I entered the discussion in response to the statement below made by Charlatan. My argument was that it's not educational opportunity that's driving wage differences, it's something else (like ability or talent).
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Originally Posted by Charlatan
Many people who earn higher wages only do so because they have an education that others couldn't *ever* afford to get. Not because they worked harder.
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So, if we were talking about any level of wages, it would be wages sufficient to get a good education, a good enough education to avoid working:
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five days a week on a factory line, or hauling garbage...
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There is no solution to getting rich and poor to socialize - but assuredly, that is one of the fundamental reasons the classes remain apart.
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I think their lack of closeness is a byproduct of something other than lack of talking to eachother, but your statement sounds like "one of the fundamental reasons the classes remain apart is because they are not close."
This is all tangential to the question of universal health care. Personally, I think that those with more money should pay more money into such a system.