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Originally Posted by irateplatypus
manx,
you add nothing to the discussion when you think you pre-empt arguments.
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Your discussion was nothing to begin with - so I am not suprised you have such derision for my perspective.
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your "facts" are as imagined as usual.
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Your counter facts are imagined as usual.
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it's a very silly thing to say that the U.S. is colonizing.
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Hardly silly at all. One need only open the newspaper to see it happening live in Iraq. But I have no doubt that your imagined facts disagree with that reality as well.
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also, from what resource do you pull the idea that the US is the number one arms dealer?
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The Congressional Research Service. I.E. the United States Government.
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if that is true by some dimensional way of looking at the statistics (if indeed you have any)... i'm willing to bet that the genocides of the last half of the century were executed almost entirely with AK-47s, SKS's, Soviet RPGs and machete's. Not F-15s, M-16s or Aegis missile systems.
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Naturally. They don't need the bigger weapons because no one attempts to stop them. Of course, other countries that use the U.S. arms are countries like Saudi Arabia, to maintain the tyrrany.
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and as long as we're talking about generalizing the arguments of others; it's typical liberal bullshit to whine about the "causes" and then pretend as if a gun were the cause of someone wanting to kill another.
you're more than willing to blame the U.S. for anything you can... yet can't even let it go when the U.S. is unequivocably not at fault. this is an illness.
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The illness is yours when you deny that the U.S., as an extension and leader of Western policies, is not involved in the world. Particularly when you prefer to pick and choose, by some seemingly arbitrary measure that ultimately comes down to money, when the U.S. is involved. Somehow, you excuse U.S. interference when it benefits the U.S. but you deny the U.S. should be involved when there are consequences to that interference. I have tried repeatedly in this thread to place the blame where it belongs: The West. And you and others have continually attempted to remove the U.S. from the West - as if because AK-47s were used in Rwanda this somehow means the U.S. foreign policy is not exactly the same as Belgiums foreign policy was to Rwanda.
And now you play the weak "liberal" card of gun mentality even though I have also already stated that colonization is the other major factor. As if guns do not allow things like tyrannies and wholesale slaughter on scales that vastly out perform a basic machette.
Your conservative escapism from the ramifications of Western (and that includes the U.S.) foreign policy is entirely obvious.