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Old 03-03-2005, 11:48 AM   #17 (permalink)
retsuki03
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Originally Posted by silent_jay
Nope not having a hard time accepting the US will do what is in it's best interest, just having a hard time with the way the US thinks everyone should follow them into everything like a lost little puppy.
So what your saying is that the US thinks they are right and that other countries should agree with them or cooperate. Is that really an international sin? I am surprised more Canadians aren't up in arms.

Can we turn this around?

Canada thinks it are right and wants other countries to argee with it and cooperate. Well I say the US is standing up as a "sovereign nation" "making up its own mind" and has "done nothing wrong."

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Originally Posted by silent_jay
The US doesn't want to play with Canada, oh darn, who does the US want to play with besides the Brits? The US will soon be having a great time playing with themselves, because no one will be left.
If that is what you think will happen, fine. What do you care? The US will be alienated in world affairs, but that doesn't matter if you are Canadian right? So what difference would it make to you?

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Originally Posted by silent_jay
Thwart US foreign policy? Oh you must mean because we make our own decisions, and don't follow behind like a good little puppet, maybe if we were more like Blair and had a nose placed up Bush's ass things would be better. If making up your own mind is considered thwarting the US's foreign policy then I guess Canada is guilty of that.

Canada is acting like a child? Thats the funniest thing I've read all day. How is Canada acting however they want? They made a decision as a soverign nation, they did nothing wrong, just made a decision, but I guess a country making up its own mind isn't something the US enjoys.
I fully respect Canada's right to make up their own mind. In fact, I applaud it. However, you can't have your cake and eat it too. This is how foreign policy works. It is the freedom of choice, but the suffering of consequences. Your arguement is like saying Iraq as a sovereign nation decided to hamper weapons inspections, but they shouldn't have to suffer international sanctions. The fact is, there are consequences for actions in foreign policy on a global scale.

What you really seem to be objecting to is the (apparent) asymetrical force that the US can sometimes bring to the table of foreign policy.

From the US perspective, we see the derogatory way many (by no means all) Canadians (even officials) talk about the US and our elected officials. The fact is- that does not make Canadian cattle popular in the US (even if you think thats not fair). If Canada wants to maximize their efficacy in relations with the United States, they should consider that their actions have consequences. This is not to say that Canadians should or have to act a certain way, but calling the leader of the US a moron is a flawed foreign policy. The reverse would also be true if it was the US trying to get Canada to do something.

A case in point. Leading up the the war, Austrailian wine sales went up while French wine sales declined. Shocking right?
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