KMA,
Don't give up yet. Start another thread and let's see if we can keep it from degrading.
flstf has some good points too.
If you think it's starting to deteriorate, then call it. Also, try not to read too much into posts (although I know what you mean about some, it's just obvious - but I ignore it, usually cause like you said, it doesn't add to the discussion and if anything, loses the argument). Sometimes it could be just lost in translation. That's the problem with internet discussion boards, sometimes nuances are lost.
Remember, civility and maturity goes both ways.
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