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Originally Posted by astrahl
Hug the shoulder? You mean the gutter. You can't ride across the gutter, they are drainage ditches with grates that'll flip you off the bike. Ever ridden a bike on a street? Sidewalks are out of the question because it is, 1) usually against the law, and 2) you can't safely ride 20 mph over concrete slabs.
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No, I do not mean the gutter, I mean the shoulder. I'm tired of seeing bikers sit in the middle of a lane doing 8mph on a 45mph boulevard when there's a perfectly good breakdown lane, or even just the frikkin' side of the right lane, that they can ride in. As I've said before, the law does not give you an excuse to be an idiot.
And I'm not advocating riding on side WALKS. But when there's a paved asphalt path next to the road that has pictures of bikes painted on it and has green signs with pictures of bikes on them and has signs that say "bike path" on them, that's a pretty good hint that bikes are encouraged to be on the path. And when there IS such a path, and the biker is fucking around in the middle of the street, then he's an idiot. Plain and simple.
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Cyclists pay taxes and are entitled to ride on the same road you do. The extra 10-15 seconds or even minute it takes you take to carefully get around them is not grounds to get all huffy about YOUR car's domain.
The ones who ride the wrong way or disobey traffic laws are NOT cyclists, but just dumb people on bikes. Cyclists are people who wear the right gear and obey the laws.
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No, GOOD cyclists are people who wear the right gear and obey the laws. And I haven't complained about GOOD cyclists. I've only complained about the idiots.
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Problem is, you group them all together as one and treat all the same.
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You did that for me by insinuating that I have a gripe with good cyclists.
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These are human lives we are talking about. I don't give a damn if dealing with cyclists takes you extra time. Killing or injuring somebody is a far more important issue.
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You really don't get me. When did I ever say I try to kill people on bicycles? Actually it's for their own safety that I wish they'd start acting intelligent. Whether the law allows it or not, dicking around in traffic that's going ten times faster than you and that weighs about 2,000 pounds more than you is asking for Darwin to come knocking at your door, especially if there are viable alternatives available to you that you don't take because you insist on enforcing the "law."