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retg34 · 05-16-2003, 06:16 AM

I saw this last night and have to agree with Kadath. It sucked. Where the hell was the editor on this movie. Did he fall asleep during the first half hour of the movie (like I almost did). What was the point of the 15 god damn minutes of sex scene (not to diss Carrie at all but I really would appreciate it if Keanu kept his cloths on at all times)/dancing tribal orgy. 2 minutes max is how long that scene should have lasted. And what the hell was up with Morph's speech. "Let them hear you", I thought the point of Zion was that the location was secret. You could have left that crap out as well as the utterly pointless chocolate cake aphrodesiac program. I think the cake should have killed her. I would have liked the character much better if he was an evil bastard and not just a sex starved renegade bit of poorly wrtten code. I spent most of the movie just wanting the characters to shut up because every thing they sad came out like they didn't understand what the hell they were saying and the other part going thinking "yeah, it's a cool fight scene, but if he can just fly away, why is he bothering."

Many people are going to say, "you just didn't get it." So let me just address that. Yes, I got it, I just didn't think it truly followed the thought process of the first one and the logic/theologic points they were trying to make were unconvincing and often times seemed flawed to me. I would have liked more rational for the social structure of Zion - or better yet don't show it at all (did they really need any of the scenes that took place there). I wanted character development of some kind. I wanted more of the twins even though they looked like Milli Vinilli dipped in flour(some back story, where these all just old agent programs or is there an occational "bug" that causes a program to go all homicidal - a great way to tie in the idea of serial killers, and other evil people as they exist in the Matrix, especially since the system knew it needed to create a non-utopia). I also felt that hey really didn't do a great job of timing. I want the militaristic characteristics of Trinity back, and I didn't believe the troubled chosen one act of Neo's one bit (and where the hell did they get grapes for crying out loud). And Tank died, yeah I got that, but how? Was there another battle? How long after the first movie is this one supposed to be? OK, I'm done, go ahead and rip into me. I'm just going to sit here in my disappointment and try to look forward to some sort of salvation in the third movie.

05-16-2003, 06:16 AM	#41 (permalink)
retg34 Upright	I saw this last night and have to agree with Kadath. It sucked. Where the hell was the editor on this movie. Did he fall asleep during the first half hour of the movie (like I almost did). What was the point of the 15 god damn minutes of sex scene (not to diss Carrie at all but I really would appreciate it if Keanu kept his cloths on at all times)/dancing tribal orgy. 2 minutes max is how long that scene should have lasted. And what the hell was up with Morph's speech. "Let them hear you", I thought the point of Zion was that the location was secret. You could have left that crap out as well as the utterly pointless chocolate cake aphrodesiac program. I think the cake should have killed her. I would have liked the character much better if he was an evil bastard and not just a sex starved renegade bit of poorly wrtten code. I spent most of the movie just wanting the characters to shut up because every thing they sad came out like they didn't understand what the hell they were saying and the other part going thinking "yeah, it's a cool fight scene, but if he can just fly away, why is he bothering." Many people are going to say, "you just didn't get it." So let me just address that. Yes, I got it, I just didn't think it truly followed the thought process of the first one and the logic/theologic points they were trying to make were unconvincing and often times seemed flawed to me. I would have liked more rational for the social structure of Zion - or better yet don't show it at all (did they really need any of the scenes that took place there). I wanted character development of some kind. I wanted more of the twins even though they looked like Milli Vinilli dipped in flour(some back story, where these all just old agent programs or is there an occational "bug" that causes a program to go all homicidal - a great way to tie in the idea of serial killers, and other evil people as they exist in the Matrix, especially since the system knew it needed to create a non-utopia). I also felt that hey really didn't do a great job of timing. I want the militaristic characteristics of Trinity back, and I didn't believe the troubled chosen one act of Neo's one bit (and where the hell did they get grapes for crying out loud). And Tank died, yeah I got that, but how? Was there another battle? How long after the first movie is this one supposed to be? OK, I'm done, go ahead and rip into me. I'm just going to sit here in my disappointment and try to look forward to some sort of salvation in the third movie.