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Superbelt · 02-23-2005, 09:45 AM

retsuki01: Interesting article and the guy is right about alot of things but ignores others.
I sort of question this journal when I see an article titled "LaRouche on the Pagan worship of Newton." Please tell me this isn't the whacko LaRouche I think it is....

Anyway, the article is right that solar cycles determine our climate in the natural world. Our oscillation from a circular to ellyptical orbit are what has our planet vary from ice age, to warm period to ice age again.
But the CO2 levels we have now are not natural. In nature large amounts of CO2 may be spewn forth at one time by volcanoes and other such things. But when these large amounts get shot out, saturation happens very quickly and the concentrations fall out relatively quickly.
Humans send a steady stream of CO2 into the atmosphere every day and we aren't stopping. We are creating an artificial, constant blanket over the earth.
There are certain absolute properties of carbon and it's ability to absorb heat. We know these, can measure them and can measure the concentration of CO2 in our atmosphere as it rises with human emissions. The numbers add up

http://www.nrdc.org/globalWarming/fgwscience.asp
Click on the years to access journal articles from the National Academy of Science, Science Magazine, American Geophysical Union, USDOD... etc.

yatzr: There is just as much money in researching negatively on global warming (especially from the fossil fuel industry) It's not about the money, it's about the research.

soundmotor: It doesn't work that way. there will be a general warming of the earth, but global warming will affect the poles most, that 0.6 degree celsius rise in earths temperature is much greater at the poles and almost non existant at the equator. The melting of the freshwater polar ice caps will destroy the North Atlantic Oscilation. The North Atlantic Oscilation is what keeps the northern US and UK from being an even colder place. take a look at our latitudes and compare them with siberia and alaska. That is what we would be like without NAO. The NAO is like a river that pulls warm water up to us from the Gulf and warms us more than our location would allow. It shuts down and that water stays put and we freeze.

02-23-2005, 09:45 AM	#15 (permalink)
Superbelt This vexes me. I am terribly vexed. Location: Grantville, Pa	retsuki01: Interesting article and the guy is right about alot of things but ignores others. I sort of question this journal when I see an article titled "LaRouche on the Pagan worship of Newton." Please tell me this isn't the whacko LaRouche I think it is.... Anyway, the article is right that solar cycles determine our climate in the natural world. Our oscillation from a circular to ellyptical orbit are what has our planet vary from ice age, to warm period to ice age again. But the CO2 levels we have now are not natural. In nature large amounts of CO2 may be spewn forth at one time by volcanoes and other such things. But when these large amounts get shot out, saturation happens very quickly and the concentrations fall out relatively quickly. Humans send a steady stream of CO2 into the atmosphere every day and we aren't stopping. We are creating an artificial, constant blanket over the earth. There are certain absolute properties of carbon and it's ability to absorb heat. We know these, can measure them and can measure the concentration of CO2 in our atmosphere as it rises with human emissions. The numbers add up http://www.nrdc.org/globalWarming/fgwscience.asp Click on the years to access journal articles from the National Academy of Science, Science Magazine, American Geophysical Union, USDOD... etc. yatzr: There is just as much money in researching negatively on global warming (especially from the fossil fuel industry) It's not about the money, it's about the research. soundmotor: It doesn't work that way. there will be a general warming of the earth, but global warming will affect the poles most, that 0.6 degree celsius rise in earths temperature is much greater at the poles and almost non existant at the equator. The melting of the freshwater polar ice caps will destroy the North Atlantic Oscilation. The North Atlantic Oscilation is what keeps the northern US and UK from being an even colder place. take a look at our latitudes and compare them with siberia and alaska. That is what we would be like without NAO. The NAO is like a river that pulls warm water up to us from the Gulf and warms us more than our location would allow. It shuts down and that water stays put and we freeze.