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Originally Posted by irateplatypus
oh come on filtherton, your language clearly indicates you proposed it as a fact. another caveat, your original question asked if christian influence was a good thing... then you asked if increased fundamentalism in government was a good thing. you can't have it both ways because they are not the same thing.
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I made clarifications further along in the thread about my original intent. It only seems like i want it both ways because you haven't been paying attention, as is evidenced by your mention of the founding fathers.
You assume that when i speak for myself i am speaking on behalf of the entire kingdom of facts. You doubt my premise all you want, it doesn't bother me. I didn't make this thread to convince anyone about an increase in the fundamentalism of our nation's leaders. Many people came to that conclusion without any help from me. Even so, that idea is peripheral to my point in this thread.
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for the record, i do believe that any increase in christian morality is a good thing for our country. i don't care if the inspiration for such thought comes from buddha, mohammed, confucious or john doe... as long as it aligns with christian moral principles i do not care an ounce for its source. being a christian myself, i don't believe that christ's message is just good for me... i believe it holds redemption for all of mankind.
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Fair enough, but what if those in power aren't the same kind of christian as you? Their christian ideals may be different than yours. There are many christians who believe that christ would endorse gay marriage. There are many christians who don't believe in war. Which christian morals would you want to see? Your own, of course. How does that work?
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when religion (not morality mind you) plays a role in government it tends to pervert both. that is why i support the moral standards of christianity being public policy though i would abhor christianity being established as a state religion or steps taken in that direction.
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I see what you're saying, but christianity can't even agree on which morals are important and which aren't. How is christianity in any kind of position to be the standard by which moral standards are judged?