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Originally Posted by Mojo_PeiPei
What's the point of the discussion then if you are dismissing the foundation and intent of those who made this country? If anything it has historical relevance because historically we have been a nation of christians.
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The point is that the founding fathers are irrelevant. I don't care what they wanted because they have absolutely zero idea what life in the 21st century is like. What politics were like in the late 1700's has very little relevance to what politics are like in the 2000's. Their intent? Who cares? They aren't in charge anymore. There comes a time in every child's life where the child must stop acting based on an idealized notion of their parent's expectations and must start thinking for him/herself. If you can't formulate your own opinion on this matter, sans founding fathers, sans constitution, than don't bother. Information on the founding fathers and the constitution is widely available on the internet. I'd rather look into it myself and make my own interpretations rather than relying on any of you to give me the crib notes.
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At any rate I don't think it's an issue of more christianity. Many Christians in America are feeling attacked, in the midst of a culture war, they feel that people are trying to take something from them. So they do whats smart and they take their beef to the polls. They push on the issues that they feel matters, they appeal to those they put in power.
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How many americans feel attacked? I'd love to see a poll with a majority of respondents claiming that they felt attacked. Too bad i haven't. I asked you this once before and you tried to avoid it mojo, but i'll ask it again. How is christianity threatened in a country where 75% of the population self identifies as christian? How can a religion be threatened by anything other than a lack of pious faithful?
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Why is less Christianity good or better? Despite the foundations of our country it still has been largely secular in the political realm, the moral issues are one thing, and it's now becoming an issue of political struggle amongst the various branches. Just because George Bush mentions god in his speeches, or says that religious charities should get money, or some judge wants the 10 commandments behind his bench, doesn't mean the nation is turning Fundamentalist Christian.
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Well, i look forward to the day when i can agree with you in observing that the nation isn't turning fundamentalist. Unfortunately, right now i see a great many people in a great many positions of power who self identify as fundamentalist or evangelical.