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go-bots · 02-21-2005, 09:14 PM

there is nothing wrong with religion intermingled with government. it is the people who
interperate the religion to fit their own ideology and use it to push their agenda on the populous that is the problem.

look at our history . more people have been killed in the name of religion than from any other cause. is it the religions fault? no, its mans own interperatation of "holy" scriptures that leeds to fear,then hatred, then suffering.(didn't yoda say that?)

slavery was in part caused by religous interperatation. mentions of slavery in the bible were misinterperated as to mean it was ok in gods eyes to enslave your fellow man. what ive been told is that the "slavery" spoken of was more of a payment method, meaning that if you borrowed money from someone and couldn't pay them back you were obligated to work for them for "free" until the lender felt sufficiently
compensated.

another example of "misinterperatation"would be the nazis and the kkk.
there belief in racial supremacy is due to misconstrued religous beliefs.
i believe we are starting to see a form of this type of "supremacy" attitude in the far christian right.

now in no way am i comparing christians to nazis or the clan. im talking about a kind of spiritual supremacy witch leads to a sense of infalability, and moral superiority. just look up quotes by jerry fallwell, pat robertson,and Ralph Reed and you'll get an idea of what im talking about.

although its to early to really speculate, i'd say give about 10 years to see how much
influence the religious right has on government policies.

all in all the point im trying to make is that the actual religion shouldn't be the problem,
its the people that use it to legislate their own ideology.

here's few questions i'd like to ask people

1: would jesus condone the use of his name and teaching for personal gain?

2: would jesus support our current governments actions and attitude?

(incase you're wondering, no i'm not religous. spiritual ,yes, but not religious)

02-21-2005, 09:14 PM	#31 (permalink)
go-bots Upright	there is nothing wrong with religion intermingled with government. it is the people who interperate the religion to fit their own ideology and use it to push their agenda on the populous that is the problem. look at our history . more people have been killed in the name of religion than from any other cause. is it the religions fault? no, its mans own interperatation of "holy" scriptures that leeds to fear,then hatred, then suffering.(didn't yoda say that?) slavery was in part caused by religous interperatation. mentions of slavery in the bible were misinterperated as to mean it was ok in gods eyes to enslave your fellow man. what ive been told is that the "slavery" spoken of was more of a payment method, meaning that if you borrowed money from someone and couldn't pay them back you were obligated to work for them for "free" until the lender felt sufficiently compensated. another example of "misinterperatation"would be the nazis and the kkk. there belief in racial supremacy is due to misconstrued religous beliefs. i believe we are starting to see a form of this type of "supremacy" attitude in the far christian right. now in no way am i comparing christians to nazis or the clan. im talking about a kind of spiritual supremacy witch leads to a sense of infalability, and moral superiority. just look up quotes by jerry fallwell, pat robertson,and Ralph Reed and you'll get an idea of what im talking about. although its to early to really speculate, i'd say give about 10 years to see how much influence the religious right has on government policies. all in all the point im trying to make is that the actual religion shouldn't be the problem, its the people that use it to legislate their own ideology. here's few questions i'd like to ask people 1: would jesus condone the use of his name and teaching for personal gain? 2: would jesus support our current governments actions and attitude? (incase you're wondering, no i'm not religous. spiritual ,yes, but not religious)