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Old 02-21-2005, 04:15 PM   #141 (permalink)
alansmithee
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Originally Posted by Manx
This is nonsense, as evidenced rather specifically by your first example of "harm", listed below - the defense of the right of speech of NAMBLA. (Also see the ACLU's defense of the KKK's right to assemble.)
You are not the arbiter of what is and what is not harmful to society. You are but a single voice. Society, by definition is the collective. All of those links you posted are examples of the ACLU defending the freedom of speech. You may not agree with the speech which was being attacked, but that does not give anyone the right to limit it, nor does it qualify your judgement of that speech as harmful to society.

If you were attempting to demonstrate that the ACLU is doing more harm than good for society, you failed entirely. If you were attempting to demonstrate that the ACLU is doing more harm than good to you personally, you have still failed entirely, by failing to show any correlation between the articles you posted and your personal life.
I like how you attack my OPINION with your OPINION. For one, not all of those were even about free speech. Did you even look at them? And even if they all were, there are many situations where there are limits on speech, and in my opinion advocation of illegal, heinous acts should be a limit on speech. Your fundamentalist secularist views have no place in this discussion (although your self-righteousness would make plenty other fundamentalists proud). The links I provided showed where the government tried something in the best interest of society, which the ACLU tried to stop because of their blind following of an anti-american, immoral agenda. Aparently in those cases, the government initially agreed with me as to what speech should be allowable, so your whole arguement about my opinion just being "a single voice" is invalidated. I have the weight of the government, which is the extension of the will of the people. You are the "single voice".

The ACLU is doing more harm than good by supporting activities that negatively contribute to society. And how my personal life has any bearing on the discussion is really beyond me. I might have failed to convince you, but honestly I don't think you are open to any idea that doesn't fit into your preconcieved notion of how things are.

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