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Originally Posted by filtherton
I think this thread is more about a trend that i have recently noticed(probably should've been more clear about this), by which the leaders of our country have moved ever closer towards the words and ideologies of christian fundamentalism. If you accept the premise that christian fundamentalism is inherently closed minded and intolerant, which many do, than this trend's destructive possibilities are obvious. As it stands right now, i don't have ill will towards christians in general, just a certain portion of them who preach outwardly the message of christ, yet embrace the opposite of what christ apparently stood for.
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Okay, cleared up a little. Exactly what trends are you referring to? The reason I ask is because I do not really see it in recent legislature. The examples people give are normally topics concerned highly with emotion and are defended primarily with emotion.
I don't think that many people would argue with you that fundamentalist thought could be a very scary thing. But, I do question their significant impact. I think it's overexaggerated.
There is going to be hypocrites and poor leaders in every group you look at. Even in the gay community you have Andrew Sullivan as a very good example. I think the concern that you and other people express just is blown out of proportion by the media.
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Originally Posted by daswig
Can you think of the last NON-Christian president we had?
Even Clinton was nominally a Christian...
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Just wanted to add that there are only 3 presidents that could really be argued as non-christian although other research material would have you think differently. Grant and Lincoln and even Jefferson all had strong Christian influence. You could even say the same about Andrew Johnson. Those last 3 are the only ones that may could go either way.