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Old 02-21-2005, 12:58 PM   #16 (permalink)
Justsomeguy
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Originally Posted by ObieX
Yep thats the problem right there. It all comes down to oppression. A country that is ruled by religious beliefs is more prone to oppress it's people. Just look at what's happening with homosexual marriage today. Enough stuff is already illegal due to stupid (and in some cases unconstitutional) laws.

This country is supposed to be all about "Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." Instead it's being led toward "Fear, oppression and the praising of Jesus."

The redicuous thing is, many christians don't follow their religion's own beliefs. For example "Love thy neighbor as you love yourself". There sure are a lot of self-hating christians out there.
First paragraph fails to take note of the real problem. Homosexual marriage is more than just some Christian issue. It just reveals a huge problem that exists in all of society, which is legislating morals. You really cannot make a truly convincing argument of why gay marriage should be legalized or why it should be banned. The problem is with the government trying to legislate something such as marriage, which is already largely associated with morals.

Also, I really do not think what you describe in the second paragraph is accurrate either. First, let me explain that to my understanding, "...the pursuit of happiness" just refered to the right to own property upon it's original delivery. On your opinion, I think it's incorrect. To say people are more oppressed now than they were 200, 100, 50, or even 10 years ago is just ludicrous.

Also, I have very liberal Christian beliefs that are not agreed upon my most Christian churches at all. I have a friend that is Agnostic. I can say that neither of us feel oppressed, nor are we afraid of telling people our beliefs. I just do not think that the hysteria really exists.

Besides the fact that "the praising of Jesus" comment would really offend many people(whom also happen to make up the majority of the nation), I do not really understand what you mean. If you're that discontent, why do you put up with it? Exactly how many presidents has the United States ever had that did not claim some religious affiliation? How long has the majority of the nation responded as being Christians? My point is, it's not new. And, Christianity still accounts for well over half of the adults in America. That large of a percentage will not just disappear in your lifetime.

My belief is that there are isolated cases where problems may exist. However, I feel that these problems are being addressed and that is all you can do. Even if you are not a Christian, you cannot be ignorant to the fact that it is a huge part of the U.S. and does contribute largely to the nation's tradition.
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