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Originally Posted by Mojo_PeiPei
The country was founded on the ideals of freedom and liberty, as inherent gifts and rights of man, as they were bestowed in them by the Creator. Supreme Court precedent doesn't mean jack really, the court always goes back and fourth, I'd say in the case of "Seperation of Church and State" (especially in the more modern times) the court is often over stepping its boundaries and being activistic. This can be noted in the sense that the supreme court is dictating law, it isn't being legislated by voter appointed representatives, as was what the Framers intended.
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I would say that supreme court precedent trumps the motivations you ascribe to the founding fathers any day of the week. Who are you to determine whether the court is being "activistic"? Judges are only activists when they're doing something you don't agree with.
This isn't directed solely at mojo...
It doesn't matter what the founding fathers wanted anymore, because, as some of you may know, they're all dead. Maybe i'm wrong, but if we have to look to people who died hundreds of years ago, who have no idea what a computer is, who have no idea what a car is, who have no idea what a political ad campaign is, who have no idea what etc., to determine our current course of action, we are indeed fucked. What does that say about our current state of leadership, or our current inability to think critically, when we can't even bother to come up with a compelling argument for something without having to take the absurd step of aligning our position with that of someone, long dead, whose allegiances-when placed in a contemporary context- we have no way of knowing?
None of you have any way of knowing what the founding fathers would've thought, and you're being foolish by pretending that an offhand quote, or a three page citation has any relevance to what any founding father might think about the way we're currently running america.
Does there exist a compelling argument for more religion in government that doesn't involve fallacious founding father endorsements?