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Old 02-18-2005, 02:43 PM   #58 (permalink)
Yakk
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Originally Posted by Master_Shake
I see, so the safety of his girlfriend trumps all privacy rights?
*laugh*, can you please stop the hyperbole? You take my statement, and extend it to a universal exagerrated one.

"trumps all privacy rights" -- when did I say this? Oh wait, you made it up.

I was describing why you didn't care about levels of danger that other people would care about. It's called empathy, understanding where people are coming from.

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Originally Posted by Master_Shake
Agreed. And when someone is a) doing any of these things to his property (not his neighbour's property, over which he has no property rights), or b) he is asked to get involved and protect someone else's property then he's justified in getting involved.
I would agree with your absolute statement if things that happened on my neighbour's property had no effect on what happens on my property.

However, I live in a universe with a very different topology. As such, I would hold your universal statement is overly strong and counterproductive.

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Originally Posted by Master_Shake
Getting involved in a non-dangerous situation without all the facts by violating another's privacy rights (especially calling the police, presence of girlfriend does not justify calling the cops when no danger is apparent) is not justified.
If a police officer saw what that person saw, and knew what that person knew, that police officer would have been justified asking what the that person was doing. There was reasonable suspiscion of a criminal act going on. If someone agrees with a law, and sees reason to have reasonable suspiscion of a criminal act going on, they are justified in reporting this suspiscion to the police.

It seems to be your position that a criminal act being perputrated on a 3rd party is not your business. Is this accurate?

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Originally Posted by Master_Shake
I completely understand. If you want to live in a highly controlled police state with curfews then by all means, do so.
I have no wish to live in a society with curfews, dispite your implied allegations to the contrary. Do you not understand that my constant use of qualifications has meaning? That the world has more than two colours? You seem to ignore every single qualification I ever use.

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Originally Posted by Master_Shake
But can't you respect that some of us don't view the invasion of privacy rights in the name of protection as the highest virtue?
Sure, I do not consider 'the invasion of privacy rights in the name of protection as the highest virtue' to be true. It's a completely ludicrous statement, constructed out of absolutes, which nobody in the thread has ever put forward.

Why did you even ask that question?

Edit: changed "give a shit" to "care". My use of profanity hid the point I was attempting to make.
Edit: Removed a use of "god damn" as an adjective
Edit: Removed "in the hell" as an adjective
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