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Old 02-18-2005, 01:42 PM   #56 (permalink)
Master_Shake
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When (you expect to know everyone) and (someone new shows up), then (inquiring about them is pretty justified).
I agree only in some circumstances. If that person is on your property, or coming at you, or at a party you're attending, then you are justified.

However, I do not feel you are justified in getting involved in someone else's situation when the person is on another's property, does not present a dangerous situation (i.e. he's not waving a gun around) and you don't have the complete facts.

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You aren't caring for the safety and life of someone whose safety you value 100 times more than your own. In his house he has a treasure worth more than gold or diamonds, and he doesn't want any thing to happen to them.
I see, so the safety of his girlfriend trumps all privacy rights? She's just another human being. How is she worth 100 times his life? Is it because she's a woman? Are all women worth 100 times more than men? That may be true, but I'd just like to make that clear.

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Harm is not restricted to murder, rape and assault. Harm extends over broad spectrums, from the small to the large.

Litter, noise, property damage, property values, security, snow on sidewalks. Parking, pollution, economic impact, courtisy, friendliness, belonging.
Agreed. And when someone is a) doing any of these things to his property (not his neighbour's property, over which he has no property rights), or b) he is asked to get involved and protect someone else's property then he's justified in getting involved.

Getting involved in a non-dangerous situation without all the facts by violating another's privacy rights (especially calling the police, presence of girlfriend does not justify calling the cops when no danger is apparent) is not justified.

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Not everyone views alienation from other people as the highest virtue.
I completely understand. If you want to live in a highly controlled police state with curfews then by all means, do so. But can't you respect that some of us don't view the invasion of privacy rights in the name of protection as the highest virtue?

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And we have you outnumbered, outgunned, outpositioned, and outpowered. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.
I don't doubt that's true. And make no mistake I will offer no real resistance. I'm not a hero who wants to become a martyr.

I may obey your laws out of fear, but I will not like it.
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