Originally Posted by doubleaught

One must stay healthy in order to help others; if you neglect yourself you will be unable to help - that's how I can say putting "self" first is not being selfish. Being selfish is more along the lines of refusing to help others even when it will not negatively affect yourself in some relatively substantial manner.

Yes, I would die for most of my family in the right situation, but this kind of example seems more in the vein of "oh yeah I'm WAY more selfless than you," which is an epenis battle I'd rather not be involved in.