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Old 05-15-2003, 09:32 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Originally posted by Liquor Dealer
I personally think that the Democratic Party is dead. I don't know if there will be formal rites after the coming election but it is definitely coming and if they do not wake up soon they will be past the point of no return.
So...based on 2.25 years of a Republican trifecta after 8 years of a Democratic president, you think the party is dead? You might be calling that horse a little early there. Dems came back after 12 years of Reagan/Bush.
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There is a point in which "Liberal" isn't liberal at all - it has reached the point of 'somewhere out there'
Yeah, I've noticed how communist Democrats are getting these days, what with their support of the war and grudging approval of the Republican tax cut.
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We live under a government whose founders did not anticipate two parties - in fact - most of the original planners of our government most favored an aristocracy - This is still evident in the electoral college. I need not tell you about history but our forefathers did not trust the common man. They were willing to let him vote for members of the House and nothing more - The common man really had nothing directly to do with government other than this. Things have changed - political parties came along very quickly and provisions had to be made to account for this. Not saying that our forefathers were right about everything but they weren't totally wrong either. Politics have gotten out of hand because of political parties - those tremendous wastes of resource that we call pork-barrel politics are the direct result of the party system. Somewhere in the middle there is common ground - the fringes of both political parties are detrimental to everyone in this country with the exception of those out there on the edge.

Do we need to go back to the middle and start over?
Well, you raise some interesting points, but what sticks in my craw is the idea that the common man not be allowed to affect his government. Why would we even want to live in that country? It's one of the greatest gifts we have here. I also disagree entirely with the statement that the fringes of each side are detrimental to almost everyone. If we eliminate Pat Buchanan and Ralph Nader, we might as well just have one party. Far from that, we should try for the situation in England and Canada, with several viable parties. As it is, people are loathe to cast their votes for third party candidates for fear of wasting their vote, if such a thing were actually possible. The more choices we have, the better off we are.
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