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Originally Posted by alansmithee
But what if the truth isn't known? For the record, I believe in evolution. But in another thread there WAS a debate over the scientific validity of ID, and many scholoars admited the possibility to be the same as that of evolution theory, so I don't see how it has no facts. There is no conclusive evidence for evolution-it doesn't stand up to the same tests as other well-known theorems.
Honestly, it doesn't seem that they even deal with the same thing: one gives a process (evolution) and one gives the reason for the start of the process (ID).
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It doesn't matter what "scholars" say, the only thing that matters is what works. Electromagnetic theory is an excellent scientific theory. Why? Because every time I turn on my tv, microwave, computer, etc. I am revalidating Maxwell's works. Similarly, everytime I take an antibiotic, an anti-viral, a vaccine, a vitamin, etc. I am revalidating the work of countless biologists and their contributions to Evolutionary Theory.
(the following is not directed at anyone in particular, especially not the poster I quoted above. Just a little rant)
Give me one, just one, example of the use of Creationism or ID in industry. You know what? You can't. Creationsim and ID in their current forms are absolutely useless, and provide no scientific insight into anything.
Every single piece of evidence that supposidly "prove" Creationism or ID do nothing of the kind. Evidence such as "irreducible complexity" is used to attack Evolution, but add nothing in support of the "theory" of Creationism/ID.
It's a hoax. It's crap, pure and simple. Conservative Christian groups who feel that the literal interperatation of the Bible is of utmost importance are threaten by real Science. They are exploiting your sence of fair play. "It's all just theories anyway," they say, "There are plenty of scientists who support ID." Bullshit. When the Biology department at Harvard University starts teaching ID in freshman Biology, that's when you can start teaching ID in grade school. Until then, STFU or go take a class in a Real Science.