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Originally Posted by Mojo_PeiPei
1) THey found the particles in the ground in Natanz, Iran, right by the reactor, I didn't know depleted uranium could move around.
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You didn't know depleted uranium could move around? Well it's a good thing I have an entire thread of mine that addresses questions like this one.
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The smoke is a very fine aerosol of uranium oxides that are easily inhaled. If an aircraft strafes a target with hundreds of rounds (which only takes a few seconds of holding the trigger), there could be hundreds of pounds of DU going up in smoke, The particles are so small that they would not be noticed. They may remain suspended in the air for a long time and may travel on the wind for many miles.
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Originally Posted by Mojo_PeiPei
2) Were do we support terrorism? Last time I checked we don't support groups like Hamas or Hezbollah (a state founded group of Iran). Our support of Osama was pre-Al Qaeda and pre-Taliban, it was illadvised, but it was well before he started his terror campaign. Israel acts in response to aggression, one of the primary functions of a nation state is to protect it's sovereign territory and provide security to it's people; pretty flimsy argument.
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So because Israel acts in response to aggression, that means what they do isn't terrorism? Do you know what terrorism is? "The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons." Well, that's Isreal's treatment of Palestine to a T.
Flimsy is the fact that you claim that it's not terrorism just because they claim they are defending themselves.
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Originally Posted by Mojo_PeiPei
3) We don't have to disarm because we dictate the pace of the dance, we didn't sign any treaties saying that we wouldn't seek nuclear weapons. Iran has, but I guess since we are the big bad United States it doesn't much matter right?
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I hope you're kidding. "We set the pace of the dance"? We have a responsibility as the self proclaimed greates nation in the world to set an example by being responsible with our weapons and power. No one is able to hold us responsible for the aweful things we've done because we are too powerful. If we would have been the size of Iran, when we invaded Iraq, we would have been stopped by a global coalition. We would have been made to disarm and we would have had to allow weapons inspectors come into our country and make sure we weren't cheating. We were the aggressors in the Second Gulf War. They did not pose a threat to the United States (no WMDs, no al Qaeda links, the two biggest reasons outlined right before the war). I can't belive you said "We don't have to disarm because we dictate the pace of the dance". That's your reasoning? If that is the manner in which you insist on arguing, then nothing can be accomplished in adversarial conversation with you. No amount of coherant arguments can even begin to budge you at all. This has become frustrating, and I don't want to be frustrated.
I hereby announce that I will no longer debate with mojo_peipei in TFP Politics. I will continue to aknowledge him outside of Politics, and I will always show him respect, but in matters political I will no longer respond.
Note: this is not by any means a concession meaning that I was wrong or mojo was right.