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Originally Posted by flstf
Probably in their plantlike way. But it's easy to discount because plants are not much like us. Sure we are both alive and strive to survive and we do share the planet and sunlight with them but it's harder to kill things whose screams of pain can be heard. Why don't we just admit that we are blood red in tooth and claw like many of our fellow lifeforms on Earth are.
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Well, all I can say to this is that I don't believe plants do feel pain. My reasons for believing this is because I don't believe plants are conscious (in the same way that rocks are not conscious).
My reasons for beliving
that...well that's just way beyond this thread (and beyond this forum). It would mean that I would have to explain in detail and defend my particular views on consciousness, and I know that they would be very unpopular (by animal lovers and meat-eaters alike!

).
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And now that we have come to an almost certain impassé I feel that this is a natural place to bring my experiment to an end.
Wow. That was exhausting! I don't think I've ever seen a single opinion on this board provoke universal condemnation accross the board! I was surprised that there was not a single vegetarian around who was willing to lend me a hand!
I have never before attempted to defend a position that I didn't actually believe was true. I have to say that it is a completely different ball game. I found it much more difficult that usual (also I am sure the fact that I was recieveing absolutely no support was a contributing factor also!

). I was forced to use some argumentative techniques which I normally would not use (Hey, I'm not proud...I'm just saying).
Anyway, there's no need to close this thread. People can continue to post their thoughts on the subject - it's just that I wouldn't be attempting to vigourously defend this position.